Message from @Josh M. -OH
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@CarletonJ he may have been referring to the US, where that intermarriage is increasingly the case
It is one thing to say Jews have disproportionate influence, and generally use that influence to our detriment. That's true, and good to be aware of. The nonsense comes in when people want to make everything about Jews, it's all the Jews' fault, they're this big, monolithic enemy that is the only thing standing between us and paradise, and all evil comes from them.
@Alex Kolchak - NY oh gotcha. That's a completely different sample.
Straw man. but if they are 70% of the problem why wouldn't that warrant 70% of attention?
*Patrick Casey- VA is typing*
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Not a straw man. Rhetoric to that effect is common and easy to find. I never said anybody in particular in here said that.
@sigruna14 Fair enough but I am talking about among IE in IE chat
@Trashboat theory: Patrick occasionally starts typing just to calm everyone down
*entire leadership is typing*
it seems to work
They're also not 70% of the problem. You believe if only there were no Jews in white countries, that things would be 70% better? I don't. Our own people who act against their own race's best interests are a problem more pervasive and destructive than Jews could ever be. If the Jews all left, we might have a few fewer anti-white news articles or something, but the mass of white liberal morons would still be here, still pushing the exact same trash.
Let’s remember it was whites killing whites in two world wars.
@sigruna14 what about the effect Jewish influence has had on our people?
@Alexander Pechorin that hurts but it’s so true
There's many reasons people subvert. It's definitely not as simple as linking it to one group.
When elephants dance, it isn't safe for the chickens @Alex Kolchak - NY
@Alexander Pechorin and you honestly don't believe there were financial interests on the UK and US involved in that?
Did I say that?
ehhhhh
that's an oversimplification
@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Financial interests or backroom dealing don’t change that fact.
Obscure generic arguments aside Jews are not White. They aren’t us.
We can simultaneously acknowledge the disproportionate role Jews play in Leftism and globalism without coming off as kooks. Obsessing over Jews is a great way to come off as a kook—it ensures people ignore everything else you have to say. (I’m not accusing anyone here of doing this.)
Some people, myself included, don’t find endless obsessing over Jews to be fruitful or tasteful, and I would hate for such people to join IE only to see general chat obsessing over Jews and circumcision. We’re all mostly on the same page when it comes to the role Jews play in globalism and Leftism, so let’s try to avoid preaching to the choir.
In summary, it’s it not as if you’re forbidden from talking about Jews, but you’ll be asked to switch topics if you start sounding like a kook.
@everyone
@Josh M. -OH What influence? Pointing out that there were originators of some awful ideas who were Jewish, and then calling that "Jewish influence" as if Jews are a monolith is as absurd as blacks who say "the white man" is eternally racist and responsible for slavery because of the 1% of white people who owned slaves hundreds of years ago. Jews may have originated some of these ideas, but whites keep spreading them.
The Culture of Critique and it's consequences have been a disaster for the dissident right movement.
Let’s find something else to talk about
Pasta
By their own admission, they’re not white.
I respectfully disagree Patrick.
You guys can take this to DMs if you want.
I first thought this was under announcements, haha
Wise words as always Patrick
@sigruna14 they're getting plenty of help spreading the ideas through media. To say its organic spread of ideas is not truthful.
okay I understand
sorry
Understandable have a nice day
Good video from James