Message from @Josh M. -OH
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@⚡Clark⚡ To address your question, because there's such a numerical imbalance between Russians and other Slavs, allowing the former to indulge chauvinistic, imperialist, and revanchist tendencies.
That’s right
..and mind you, I say this as a Russophile.
Hopefully, the Intermarium will be a game-changer in that respect.
Ukraine and Russia may go to war
Like right now
It'd be one thing if the Russian government were genuinely nationalist, or even Pan-Slavist, but so long as they retain this sovok ("race-blind" NPCs who grew up during the Soviet period) mindset, I'm gonna have to remain critical.
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Ukraine gonna be screaming for NATO and EU.
Mhmm...
*Jens Stoltenberg hand-rubbing intensifies...*
Lol they basically might declare a state of war and then not do anything aggressive
I swear to god if Ukraine joins NATO and triggers a mutual defense clause causing US to go to war w Russia
What's Russia's excuse for what they did?
Crimea belongs to Russia
@NateDahl76 It's possible, but even just making invoking that legal distinction might have far-reaching implications...
Ukraine is already West aligned post coup
@Sam Southern - TN NATO won't take Ukraine in, at least formally, because they don't want to incur an Article 5 obligation, the need to declare war if a member state is attacked (or portrayed as being attacked).
Ya that’s what I’m talking about lol. Who makes the call on letting in nations, US and who else?
The whole membership.
Ukraine couldn’t join NATO quick enough
Hm, I was hoping it’d be a smaller group of nations. Does it have to be a consensus, or is it a simple majority?
Look out for larger and larger shipments of ever more significant weaponry, though, combined with a further racheting up of sanctions.
@Sam Southern - TN I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it has to be a consensus.
NATO members vote with big guys having veto power. Although in this case with Russia being aggressor state they cant veto
US should veto for sure then. Let’s hope trump doesn’t cuck and fold
If it even gets that far
For sure, but there's a significant number of countries that are wary of the risk of open conflict with Russia, including some whose long-term economic strategies are entwined with Russian economic interests, the most prominent being Germany.
Germany wouldn’t hesitate to go against Russia tho, especially if merkel thinks they can depose Putin and put some globohomo shill there in his place
Still get the pipeline and no Putin
Ukraine can still cry to NATO and they'll ask Russia to behave themselves.
Merkel will be out before Putin, and she's thirsty for that Nord Stream 2 gas.
Merkel would be hesitant if she isn't sure USA will support. They won't be the aggressor
Russia can cut off the natural gas to Europe and they will freeze this coming winter and start to really miss nuclear energy, plus I doubt if we can sanction Russia anymore than we already do
@Josh M. -OH That, too, but we can definitely count on the "deep state" (or whatever other term you want to attribute to it) to try to force the President's hand.