Message from @Livingstone

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2021-01-08 05:16:10 UTC  

I firmly believe that there needs to be a nationwide history program that teaches actual history and also teaches about the way the government works. I think it should not vary from state to state.

2021-01-08 05:16:36 UTC  

If it’s American history it should be the same across the board. History is not subject to how a state views it.

2021-01-08 05:17:57 UTC  

@Livingstone fckn amen to that. The way we teach history and truth is laughable. The only issue there is if we regulate the teachings of history, if the government controls that regulation, they can lie all they want and it will be the status quo.

2021-01-08 05:18:13 UTC  

Very true.

2021-01-08 05:18:27 UTC  

A seriously fine-line on education across the board

2021-01-08 05:19:17 UTC  

It really bugs me that censorship of history is being promoted. It blows my mind. I wish that there was a baseline and then the state could expand on it but could not detract from it. I don’t believe that it should be regulated by the government. But I do believe that it should be the same across the board.

2021-01-08 05:19:46 UTC  

adding to that, the whole "common core" math they're teaching is absurdity, and making people dumber. And I'm not a boomer like people stereotype anti-commoncore people with, i'm in my mid'20's. wtf happened to mathematics.

2021-01-08 05:21:17 UTC  

Dude I turn 27 next month. I don’t understand common core. My roommate, well ex roommate, is going to be a teacher. She was some six years younger than me and she and her younger sister who is 10 years younger than me both have experience with common core. I don’t understand how they can be so not smart. I wouldn’t call her dumb. But she can’t do basic writing, reading, Or math. 

2021-01-08 05:22:39 UTC  

Like. She just can’t. She can’t read quickly. Hast to read something multiple times to process it. And her writing is atrocious. She is going to be an educator.

2021-01-08 05:23:20 UTC  

Not a D’s Get degrees educator. I don’t even know how to describe it.

2021-01-08 05:23:38 UTC  

Truth, my sister got her degree in education and she is constantly complaining about how everyone in the system is dense. They might not necessarily be dumb, but the way they've been taught to interpret/compute things is so braindead, they can't problem-solve at all on their own.

2021-01-08 05:24:42 UTC  

They don’t have any critical thinking skills. They are incapable of coming to their own conclusion or producing individual analysis.

2021-01-08 05:24:48 UTC  

It’s bull shit.

2021-01-08 05:24:51 UTC  

I'm a programmer for a living, and literally all you do is problemsolve, so when people have an issue understanding things like percentages i'm totally taken aback. I had a debate with a friend over mixing 2 cans of beer together, he said it'd make 10% alcohol if he mixed 2 5% beers together. This guy has a DEGREE

2021-01-08 05:25:08 UTC  

Oh my god that’s so funny

2021-01-08 05:25:20 UTC  

I genuinely witch cackled.

2021-01-08 05:25:38 UTC  

I laughed too but internally i was a bit upset. wtf happened to education, my lord.

2021-01-08 05:25:41 UTC  

I mean if he wants to make a homemade black and tan that is one thing.

2021-01-08 05:26:15 UTC  

I’m working on getting my degree atm.

2021-01-08 05:26:46 UTC  

Rhetoric. I take time off to work in the real world and make money so I can go to school because I don’t believe in student loans.

2021-01-08 05:28:02 UTC  

Some of the people, man. Like these young girls that are so alt leftist. Especially from the early childhood and education field. They just don’t make any sense.

2021-01-08 05:28:26 UTC  

And when they get out they’ll be preschool and elementary teachers with debt.

2021-01-08 05:29:07 UTC  

It breaks my heart that they are the teachers of the future when they are so. Bleh.

2021-01-08 05:30:35 UTC  

Side note. Did you ever watch the IT crowd?

2021-01-08 05:35:58 UTC  

Agreed, the upcoming generation of teachers are a total heartbreaker. Despite the fact that they're mostly indoctrinated by leftist ideals, they also are just NOT critical thinkers at all. They're the kinds of teachers that get mad when students point out a mistake they made during teaching and might even punish for it. It's a sad state of affairs.

2021-01-08 05:36:01 UTC  

And no, I have not.

2021-01-08 05:53:39 UTC  

I absolutely agree. It is really sad. It’s a British humor show. Predates big bang theory. It’s… Not the same thing as programming. But it does center around IT.

2021-01-08 05:54:12 UTC  

I don’t want to be a teacher. I actually do want to make money and do something with my life. But I will fall into teaching probably by the time I hit 45.

2021-01-08 05:54:37 UTC  

That is my goal. I don’t wanna seek being a teacher. I want to fall into it when the time is right.

2021-01-08 17:57:36 UTC  

@Skizerz they've really done a disservice to teachers in the US. It's absolutely pathetic how they are treated.

2021-01-08 18:00:41 UTC  

Education in this country is abysmal at best. My daughter is in a Charter school, which is at least a slight improvement over Public School, but I still worry for her education.

2021-01-08 18:03:09 UTC  

There are aspects of potential protection for our education institutions, but those protections could limit diversity of topics and freedom of information. I just wish there was a way to mandate fact only delivery. No propaganda or opinions.

2021-01-08 18:03:26 UTC  

Only in the US do you have to pay a premium for a decent education. In my case I was sent to a catholic school and it was bad comparatively to public school because of lack of resources.

2021-01-08 18:04:27 UTC  

@AlexanderTorri agree 100% cut out the bs indoctrination.

2021-01-08 18:06:45 UTC  

Our higher education systems have always had a romance with ideological systems such as communism/ socialism. I don't know if you've ever heard of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn but he was boo'ed out of Harvard for presenting an anti-communism speech.

2021-01-08 18:07:01 UTC  

The question is how is elimination of indoctrination communicated through legal language without limiting liberties? There is a freedom of press and speech granted by the 1st amendment. Anything contrary to the broad envelope created by the language is automatically unconstitutional. So it seems propaganda is even protected.

2021-01-08 18:07:19 UTC  

Lol figures...

2021-01-08 18:08:11 UTC  

You control the language you control the narrative.

2021-01-08 18:08:56 UTC  

Democrats seem to be predominantly ideologues. When they are challenged the backlash they bring is chaotic.

2021-01-08 18:09:44 UTC  

Such is the case when your ideology is based off of emotion rather than fact.

2021-01-08 18:10:30 UTC  

Conservative ideology is practical and based off of historical understanding. When the status quo is challenged, they panic.