Message from @Haydn

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2021-01-10 23:56:05 UTC  

Small thing, but Alex Jones is not a reliable source for breaking things down. I have watched episodes where he uses a normal human voice, but he still has bouts of insanity and I don’t trust him. As for the other sources, the NYT article is based on a source that recognized them, but just *believes* they are right: “The infiltrators were recognized due to their participation in New York City demonstrations, and were believed to have joined in the rioting so that Trump would get blamed, the source said.” And then then end of the article calls out how the Washington Times article was false and misleading. The NewsMax article has a quote from the Rep. that the article is based on saying this: ““Now, whether these people who did the actual violence were antifa, or antifa plus Trump supporters, or only Trump supporters, or anarchists, or somebody else, we really need to wait until an investigation has been conducted, and not jump to conclusions when the evidence is incomplete.”” Then the videos of people saying “no Antifa”, how does that prove anything? Because some people saw others breaking windows and started chanting? That doesn’t mean the people were actually a part of antifa, it’s just that the chanters were more sensible than the ppl breaking windows and started booing the window breakers. And finally the last one doesn’t even prove the dude was a dem, he just didn’t vote. And that’s assuming the tweet was true fact even tho it just shows an excel sheet that is severely clipped. I’m not saying it’s false, just that it doesn’t prove he was antifa or anything, if it is true. Now before you respond, hear me out: I will believe anything, if there is enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Currently, the evidence makes me believe it was almost all Trump supporters causing mayhem at the capitol. I mean ultimately we have to wait, I just don’t think this evidence is substantial enough.

2021-01-10 23:56:35 UTC  

Oh shit, that was in response to Meiglos from yesterday

2021-01-11 00:00:37 UTC  

More evidence will make its way into the public view. It’s good that you think critically and identify sources. Everyone should. But once there are reputable sources that prove without a doubt that it was not Trump supporters and that people were planted then it’s important to share those sources.

2021-01-11 00:01:15 UTC  

It was mostly Trump supporters though, right?

2021-01-11 00:01:51 UTC  

Yeah, i believe so, it would take tremendous evidence to prove otherwise

2021-01-11 00:01:56 UTC  

Seems like Q people and some non-genuine people were the tip of the spear entering the building

2021-01-11 00:02:06 UTC  

And then the patriots followed in

2021-01-11 00:03:52 UTC  

I think it was most likely a mix of extremists at the front lines (Q, PBs, maybe actors idk), then the VAST majority of ppl just kinda followed the crowd until they were standing in the capitol, and none of them understood wtf they were doing there.

2021-01-11 00:04:26 UTC  

Yep

2021-01-11 00:04:44 UTC  

And then some secret service people who went in to grab the laptops

2021-01-11 00:05:41 UTC  

Makes it seems like that was the plan... which is kind of shitty because it means that someone tricked Trump supporters into breaking the law to create a distraction

2021-01-11 00:05:59 UTC  

Meaning that a few people died and potentially some will go to jail

2021-01-11 00:06:32 UTC  

But I guess, that's war. You allow some of your people to get killed so that millions more don't have to die.

2021-01-11 00:06:57 UTC  

What about a distraction? I haven’t heard about this.

2021-01-11 00:07:55 UTC  

Well, did you see how some highly coordinated men in black jackets, face masks and glasses were moving through the crowds and allegedly they had the laptops?

2021-01-11 00:07:58 UTC  

Pelosi's laptop etc

2021-01-11 00:08:54 UTC  

I heard someone took Pelosi’s laptop, but idk anything beyond.

2021-01-11 00:08:58 UTC  

Looked like two different entrances

2021-01-11 00:09:11 UTC  

Yeah. They also took multiple other peoples' laptops

2021-01-11 00:09:24 UTC  

And there's video of these secret service-lookin people in the capitol

2021-01-11 00:09:27 UTC  

I'll see if I can find it

2021-01-11 00:10:43 UTC  

The break-in, happened off to the side. Radicals? Trump supporters? antifa? Gov't agitators? - No idea.
Most ppl walked in peacefully through the unlocked front door, after police retreated & waved the large crowd in.

2021-01-11 00:12:53 UTC  

Yeah I agree Meiglos, whatever happened ended up putting a lot of peaceful American’s in a really bad situation just because the crowd was aided in gaining access. It’s super fucked up for those people

2021-01-11 00:13:02 UTC  

I dunno, I'm not able to find this video

2021-01-11 00:13:51 UTC  

hello

2021-01-11 00:13:57 UTC  

It shows secret service running down a staircase in the Capitol and a bunch of patriots are yelling at them for some reason

2021-01-11 00:14:40 UTC  

And supposedly they are the people that stole the laptops

2021-01-11 00:15:18 UTC  

...It was chaos & we need investigation & more evidence of what actually happened.

2021-01-11 00:15:55 UTC  

I have not seen any long form video of anything really, only quick clips showing what I described above.

2021-01-11 00:17:05 UTC  

Something something tree of liberty something blood of patriots

2021-01-11 00:17:09 UTC  

the state cap. is actually the people house if we are being honest

2021-01-11 00:20:43 UTC  

Just gonna drop this here

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/365898602469392386/797983297404796938/image0.png

2021-01-11 00:21:41 UTC  

🤷‍♂️ 🤔

2021-01-11 00:22:08 UTC  

She said that they were not going to request help the day before the sixth.

2021-01-11 00:22:14 UTC  

The rally.

2021-01-11 00:22:39 UTC  

“Discourages any deployment”

2021-01-11 00:23:02 UTC  

District of Columbia?

2021-01-11 00:23:05 UTC  

Sorry I'm Aussie

2021-01-11 00:23:16 UTC  

Is that DC?

2021-01-11 00:23:17 UTC  

Ok