Message from @Evan

Discord ID: 517412568361467915


2018-11-28 18:49:33 UTC  

F

2018-11-28 18:49:45 UTC  

From a biblical perspective I don't see how you could make the argument.

2018-11-28 18:49:49 UTC  

Friendship kills debates
F

2018-11-28 18:49:58 UTC  

Well I'm not beholden to a biblical perspective personally

2018-11-28 18:50:15 UTC  

If I was I'd be with you on that

2018-11-28 18:50:31 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD haven't read him in a long time but I'll definitely check out that link, thanks!

2018-11-28 18:50:38 UTC  

Whats to stop a team of people from going to some unregulated country in the middle of nowhere and making designer babies?

2018-11-28 18:50:39 UTC  

That's fine, but if it is a moral question what is your moral basis?

2018-11-28 18:51:02 UTC  

Why would designer babies be bad?

2018-11-28 18:51:13 UTC  

@Sam Anderson huh interesting

2018-11-28 18:51:29 UTC  

That is what selective breeding is

2018-11-28 18:51:36 UTC  

because apparently we wont know when to stop @MrBland - VA

2018-11-28 18:51:51 UTC  

I guess we'd have to regulate it really good

2018-11-28 18:52:02 UTC  

Honestly I don't have a single doctrine I derive my morals from, I'd guess it's mostly coming from a civic morality to ensure the health and security of my people

2018-11-28 18:52:04 UTC  

Selective breeding has inherent limits that gene editing does not

2018-11-28 18:52:18 UTC  

The diverse now demand access to the pale. Even if the pale find some way to carve out their own places, but remain within the law, the diverse will find some way to force their way inside. In other words, the Danegeld of the Civil Rights Movement, which was affirmative action, was not enough. It turns out Kipling was right about the Danegeld. Once you have paid the diverse, you never get rid of the diverse. FROM https://thezman.com/wordpress/

2018-11-28 18:52:24 UTC  

Selective breeding is a fantastic start

2018-11-28 18:52:29 UTC  

So the "good of the people" idea @Kingfish

2018-11-28 18:52:42 UTC  

@missliterallywho No prob, lol. Remember, NazLud (National Ludditism) is the final red pill <:usinnoodle:420778112226164736>: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC6Z_kdQoHw

2018-11-28 18:52:43 UTC  

In my opinion yes for the most part

2018-11-28 18:52:49 UTC  

selective breeding can't compete with gene editing

2018-11-28 18:53:11 UTC  

The world is so good at sticking to treaties and agreements, I'm sure everyone would abide by regulations on gene editing <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-11-28 18:53:23 UTC  

I think spirituality or religion is a powerful way to ensure these values in an intangible, socially cohesive concept, but they come from the society itself

2018-11-28 18:54:19 UTC  

My biggest complaint with "civic morality" is it's subjective nature.

2018-11-28 18:54:28 UTC  

Yes its subjective

2018-11-28 18:54:37 UTC  

That's why most societies have different ones

2018-11-28 18:54:41 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD I am a passive Luddite, patiently waiting for the inevitable 🙏

2018-11-28 18:54:45 UTC  

What is good for the people will vary quite a bit from person to person

2018-11-28 18:54:56 UTC  

Sure

2018-11-28 18:55:05 UTC  

I prefer an objective morality.

2018-11-28 18:55:08 UTC  

And there will be times when the people are wrong

2018-11-28 18:55:20 UTC  

Well objective is rather debatable isn't it 😉

2018-11-28 18:55:31 UTC  

And then of course I'm biased by my view of the truth of the world.

2018-11-28 18:55:38 UTC  

We haven't yet mentioned that gene editing would have a huge barrier to entry 💰 💰 💰

2018-11-28 18:56:16 UTC  

Yeah that's fine, id argue your view is a pretty important one and has served our people well

2018-11-28 18:56:18 UTC  

We Europeans are molded by Europe. Europe gave us intellect and ambition. Gene editing is simply an extension of Europe’s nature, not contrary to it.

2018-11-28 18:56:33 UTC  

Our levantine merchant friends will likely use editing to obscure or hide their characteristic features.

2018-11-28 18:56:33 UTC  
2018-11-28 18:57:18 UTC  

Heidegger thought that the nature of technology isn’t technological at all and I agree.

2018-11-28 18:57:26 UTC  

Jews would use this tech to rid themselves of their many diseases, becoming more of an eternal pest than they could ever be without it.

2018-11-28 18:57:27 UTC  

lol @Goose -when you forget your homework assignment