Everybody can play a role in raising consciousness

PB too normie for me haha

At this point it's probably safer to be doxxed as IE than as a Proud Boy

Ehhhh

Considering PB exists to do drugs, drink and get in physical altercations with the left I tend to agree, but that's mostly because of HUGE mistakes they have made, as opposed to us doing things right.

The cultural climate is still VERY much against us, and will remain that way for quite some time.

Absolutely

Yeppers

We have made mistakes too in the past though and we learnt from those mistakes and rectified our actions and changed leadership. Why not have faith that they too may learn from their mistakes

@Papa Pizzagate Huh. I knew about the drinking and Gavin-esque antics, but I didn't know drugs were a big problem over there...

@Bjorn - MD can't speak for every chapter, but NYC crew has a reputation for being blow fiends.

Pb didn't help organize the most well known "white supremacist" rally in modern memory where a woman was killed tho


I would not advise anything that would lead to your involvement being well known for a long time to come

Smaaaat

Soft agree. Depends on ones state, financial situation, employment, physical location, stage in life and so forth

Wicked smaaaat.

Going public is dumb but being doxed is oftentimes not the end of the world.

It will absolutely set you back though!

However it often is

More often than not, yeah.

Totally

The love and support of the org is great but if you can avoid losing your life, family, job, etc probably not wise to do so

Ouch the family one would be tough

Proud Boys are more extreme than we are.
I’d also much rather be doxed as a member of IE than as a Proud Boy. I remember seeing Defend Identity and going “Hell yeah. If I were to be doxed as a member of any group, I would want it to be IE”

@NateDahl76 the kinda Pride that the Proud Boys will never feel

Republicans are hated but they still use their real names. I think IE needs to get there eventually.

@Eugene of Savoy That;s the goal.

Being a republican doesn't get you and your family put in harms way lol (most of the time) at least it generally hasn't

Well look back and think i remember Ian back when he was known as Ian...those where the good old days

I think of us like the signers of the Declaration of Independence.

I’ve never felt like I was doing anything wrong as a member of IE

Although Republicans and IE serve fundamentally different purposes; the GOP is a mainstream political party, whereas we're vanguard. What we do will always be riskier socially than what they do.

The left is committed to polarizing the American public, so I imagine we will reach a point in the not-too-distant-future wherein the histronic claims of the left are shrugged off by exactly 45% of the population (and 65% of the job providers lmaoo)

Especially so if Trump gets a second term

2020. Baby

@William Russell btw great meeting you at DTR. How you been, big papa?

f not you

@Eugene of Savoy

F lol

I like that

I'm gonna have fs everywhere now

Then Ian will block me