oh yeah, where does b 12 come from?

For me, it comes in a vegan capsule.💸

i see

Vitamin B12 is not made by plants or animals but by microbes that blanket the earth. In today’s sanitized, modern world, the water supply is commonly chlorinated to kill off any bacteria. So, while we don’t get much B12 in the water anymore, we don’t get much cholera, either, which is a good thing!

A regular, reliable source of vitamin B12 is critical for anyone eating a plant-based diet. Though deficiency for those starting out with adequate stores may take years to develop, the results of B12 deficiency can be devastating, with cases reported of paralysis, psychosis, blindness, and even death. Newborn infants of mothers who eat a plant-based diet and who fail to supplement may develop deficiency much more rapidly with disastrous results. Getting enough vitamin B12 is absolutely nonnegotiable for those centering their diets around plant-based foods.

For adults under age 65, the easiest way to get B12 is to take at least one 2,500 mcg supplement each week or a daily dose of 250 mcg.

Breakfast cereals often have B12.

either way, Nothing is Natural i guess, haha

Yeah. it's what they call, fortified.

sad, but true

It's also fortified in Nutritional Yeast. It looks like fish food flakes, and is used as a non-dairy cheese flavoring.

have you ever had Vegan Cheese?

Yes, I make the nut based cheeses and bake my own bread.

yeah, Vegan Cheese is not Bad at all, My Cousin Makes it From Scratch too

Nice.

I buy Chiao cheese when it's available.

I'm grateful for GMO. Prior to GMO I wasn't paying much attention to what I was eating. For example, now I only buy organic potatoes because the others may be GMO, and they are covered with a growth inhibitor called spud crud.

theres organic potatoes ??

Yes, you just have to look. There is organic everything, now. Before GMO it was hard to find organics.

So Starch is Also apart of your Diet ?

For the 2018 Dirty Dozen list, EWG singled out produce with the highest loads of pesticide residues. This year the list includes, in descending order, strawberries, spinach, nectarines, apples, grapes, peaches, cherries, pears, tomatoes, celery, potatoes and sweet bell peppers.

Yes, I'm a starchivore. 💯

So I try to buy organic versions of the dirty dozen to avoid some pesticides.

Organic celery tastes far superior to me. Not sure why, unless it's the pesticides.

Pesticides are in Everyones diet

I'm afraid so.

Strawberries are hard to wash.

Starches are like stored energy. Very helpful to me.

not just pesticides, fertilisers are carcinogenic as well.. and they aren't even discussed.

We might as well Stop Breathing then

@Lumbi do you feel the term Lumbersexual was an attempt to co-opt men demonstrating masculinity by growing beards and wearing work style clothes?

Yes, organic food is not necessarily vegan food. Say it is grown with a bloodmeal fertiliser. @Lumbi

Or do you mean petroleum based fertilizers are carcinogenic @Lumbi

@ZODD The best you can do is limit exposure. If you don't eat meat you've eliminated the top killers.: Heart problems, Cancer, and possibly Doctor Malpractice.

I got rid of meat, but fish / sashimi is still too tempting..

Working in the meat industry is often a quick cure. I wish I could recommend fish to you.

You recommend me working in the fish industry. LoL

Just long enough to be disgusted by it. Watch out for the arthritis.

Fish Causes arthritis?

The constant motion of gutting fish causes arthritis., repetitive motion injuries.

Same with other meat, you work on a line and do one job (motion) repetively.

Sounds like Hell, not only that but ending up with arthritis is even worse.

That's basically the story of, "The Jungle," by Upton Sinclair. Author works in meat packing plant and becomes vegetarian (and possibly a socialist.)