Message from @Flushtater

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2018-08-27 08:05:58 UTC  

I can't eat meat because of health reasons, otherwise, I might. That's why I'm more inclined to say plant-based than vegan. Vegan is more of a lifestyle.

2018-08-27 08:09:00 UTC  

if fish didn't have health related problems due to pollution/bacteria/mercury , honestly i wouldn't care that i ate it much

2018-08-27 08:10:33 UTC  

That's it, plus they are eating all that floating plastic that bio-accumulates the higher up the food chain you go. Dioxins, etc.

2018-08-27 08:10:41 UTC  

pre-fab lifestyles of deformity... lots for social engineers to work with

2018-08-27 08:10:48 UTC  

these days

2018-08-27 08:13:37 UTC  

I haven't quite progressed to the Vegan labeled body care products and shoes, just yet, but give me a couple of years. I think most people who go plant based have some health issue, otherwise they have no motivation to change.🍴

2018-08-27 08:14:47 UTC  

vegans have health issues?

2018-08-27 08:15:58 UTC  

Most people who become vegan do so because they had health problems. Vegans are usually okay as long as they supplement B-12.

2018-08-27 08:16:20 UTC  

oh yeah, where does b 12 come from?

2018-08-27 08:17:29 UTC  

For me, it comes in a vegan capsule.💸

2018-08-27 08:18:11 UTC  

i see

2018-08-27 08:21:39 UTC  

Vitamin B12 is not made by plants or animals but by microbes that blanket the earth. In today’s sanitized, modern world, the water supply is commonly chlorinated to kill off any bacteria. So, while we don’t get much B12 in the water anymore, we don’t get much cholera, either, which is a good thing!

A regular, reliable source of vitamin B12 is critical for anyone eating a plant-based diet. Though deficiency for those starting out with adequate stores may take years to develop, the results of B12 deficiency can be devastating, with cases reported of paralysis, psychosis, blindness, and even death. Newborn infants of mothers who eat a plant-based diet and who fail to supplement may develop deficiency much more rapidly with disastrous results. Getting enough vitamin B12 is absolutely nonnegotiable for those centering their diets around plant-based foods.

For adults under age 65, the easiest way to get B12 is to take at least one 2,500 mcg supplement each week or a daily dose of 250 mcg.

2018-08-27 08:22:30 UTC  

Breakfast cereals often have B12.

2018-08-27 08:23:05 UTC  

either way, Nothing is Natural i guess, haha

2018-08-27 08:24:04 UTC  

Yeah. it's what they call, fortified.

2018-08-27 08:24:49 UTC  

sad, but true

2018-08-27 08:25:34 UTC  

It's also fortified in Nutritional Yeast. It looks like fish food flakes, and is used as a non-dairy cheese flavoring.

2018-08-27 08:26:05 UTC  

have you ever had Vegan Cheese?

2018-08-27 08:27:05 UTC  

Yes, I make the nut based cheeses and bake my own bread.

2018-08-27 08:27:37 UTC  

yeah, Vegan Cheese is not Bad at all, My Cousin Makes it From Scratch too

2018-08-27 08:27:55 UTC  

Nice.

2018-08-27 08:30:32 UTC  

I buy Chiao cheese when it's available.

2018-08-27 08:36:43 UTC  

I'm grateful for GMO. Prior to GMO I wasn't paying much attention to what I was eating. For example, now I only buy organic potatoes because the others may be GMO, and they are covered with a growth inhibitor called spud crud.

2018-08-27 08:39:45 UTC  

theres organic potatoes ??

2018-08-27 08:40:32 UTC  

Yes, you just have to look. There is organic everything, now. Before GMO it was hard to find organics.

2018-08-27 08:41:52 UTC  

So Starch is Also apart of your Diet ?

2018-08-27 08:41:59 UTC  

For the 2018 Dirty Dozen list, EWG singled out produce with the highest loads of pesticide residues. This year the list includes, in descending order, strawberries, spinach, nectarines, apples, grapes, peaches, cherries, pears, tomatoes, celery, potatoes and sweet bell peppers.

2018-08-27 08:42:18 UTC  

Yes, I'm a starchivore. 💯

2018-08-27 08:42:59 UTC  

So I try to buy organic versions of the dirty dozen to avoid some pesticides.

2018-08-27 08:44:36 UTC  

Organic celery tastes far superior to me. Not sure why, unless it's the pesticides.

2018-08-27 08:45:00 UTC  

Pesticides are in Everyones diet

2018-08-27 08:45:12 UTC  

I'm afraid so.

2018-08-27 08:45:46 UTC  

Strawberries are hard to wash.

2018-08-27 08:46:50 UTC  

Starches are like stored energy. Very helpful to me.

2018-08-27 08:48:49 UTC  

not just pesticides, fertilisers are carcinogenic as well.. and they aren't even discussed.

2018-08-27 08:49:40 UTC  

We might as well Stop Breathing then

2018-08-27 08:50:29 UTC  

@Lumbi do you feel the term Lumbersexual was an attempt to co-opt men demonstrating masculinity by growing beards and wearing work style clothes?

2018-08-27 08:51:50 UTC  

Yes, organic food is not necessarily vegan food. Say it is grown with a bloodmeal fertiliser. @Lumbi

2018-08-27 08:52:33 UTC  

Or do you mean petroleum based fertilizers are carcinogenic @Lumbi

2018-08-27 08:55:48 UTC  

@ZODD The best you can do is limit exposure. If you don't eat meat you've eliminated the top killers.: Heart problems, Cancer, and possibly Doctor Malpractice.

2018-08-27 08:57:02 UTC  

I got rid of meat, but fish / sashimi is still too tempting..