solely because you constantly have to flip back and forth skipping through entire chapters of the book

to the point that most people I know just use Chummer unless they're using the Anarchy rules

I used chummer as well.

because the crunch on its own wouldn't be bad

if the book didn't have such awful formatting

Yeah, it comes down to a formatting thing.

Instead of making a new edition they should just re-format 5 and boom.

Maybe simplify the crunch and make 5.5

that was Anarchy

But nah, they won't do that.

simplified 5E

huh

but nobody's ever heard about anarchy because they put zero effort behind marketing it

and most shadowrun purists don't like it because "It's too simplified"

tl note: still takes at least twice as long to teach to somebody as Savage Worlds

Not to familiar with savage worlds.

real simple ruleset, setting agnostic to the point that they provide you with all sorts of rules to make your own races, worlds, etc, then proceed to say "By the way you don't need to follow these rules if you want to make some broken super race, up to you."

Huh

Very interesting.

your stats and skills are represented by dice rather than a number that provides a flat bonus, all rolls come with a wild die

so every stat and skill levels up in steps from d4-d12

Sounds cool

and no matter what your stat or skill is, you throw that die and a d6 to go with it

and any time you roll a "crit", the die explodes and you roll again and add to the total

Regardless of Shadorun's faults, I still like the game regardless.

tends to lean toward very pulpy/actiony sort of games

Interesting.

but I like it because it's very easy to teach somebody

Sure

Actually, I remember making a character for savage worlds.

But didn't really play.

though something that's good or bad depending on how you look at it, it's *very* difficult for your character to actually die

like the default difficulty for any given task in the game is to roll a 4 unless it's contested

so if you have a d6 in a skill, which would be considered wholly average, you've got a 75% chance of success between your skill die and the wild die

huh

Yeah I think I am starting to remember some of this stuff.

I liked the system enough to fund the most recent edition of the game

Oh

twice technically

because I paid $20 during the kickstarter for a digital edition

So it's out?