Message from @Phillip Wiglesworth - FL

Discord ID: 519594481541054465


2018-12-04 18:37:55 UTC  

good idea lol

2018-12-04 18:38:54 UTC  

No worries you gals are welcome to talk on the server lmao

2018-12-04 18:44:58 UTC  

@Virgil glad to see that we won’t be drawn into that

2018-12-04 18:46:23 UTC  

For the folks that don't like NATO or the EU having Ukraine join their ranks would probably collapse them. Of course this applies to Russia as well. Ukraine is becoming the black sheep of Europe due to mafia politics and extreme corruption of its government.

2018-12-04 18:49:26 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN I'm sure the idiots at the State Dept will try to drag us into Ukraine

2018-12-04 18:49:29 UTC  

Well collapsing NATO would be great, but I think it’s more likely we’d be forced into some kind of additional deployment. Lord knows the US armed forces isn’t in enough countries yet

2018-12-04 18:53:37 UTC  

Can somebody explain to me what benefit we get from NATO, if any?

2018-12-04 18:54:09 UTC  

I don't see the point in being in any country we are not at war with

2018-12-04 19:00:07 UTC  

@Isabella Locke-MT NATO, isn't a bad idea to a degree in theory. A stable military alliance with other industrialized powers is a good thing, so we can reign in their more militaristic tendencies for better global security.

However in practice, NATO is basically just about opposing the Russians for very petty reasons while it lets member states like Turkey run wild.

2018-12-04 19:00:58 UTC  

Ahhh

2018-12-04 19:03:27 UTC  

All I really know about it is that we put way more money into NATO than any other country

2018-12-04 19:03:34 UTC  

It was one of Trump's talking points

2018-12-04 19:08:57 UTC  

Has there ever been talks of some kind of insurance program for IE to help support member who have been unlawfully/wrongfully charge with a crime?

2018-12-04 19:09:59 UTC  

@DrewMT i didn't know they let you access discord from jail?

2018-12-04 19:10:21 UTC  

Hahaha

2018-12-04 19:10:57 UTC  

IE is currently embattled in a lawsuit so I would imagine they don't have the funds to do that @DrewMT

2018-12-04 19:11:16 UTC  

Not sure though

2018-12-04 19:11:33 UTC  

Yeah I wasn’t sure if we had enough members to fund that kind of program or not

2018-12-04 19:13:20 UTC  

I'd wager membership dues would be higher if that were the case.

2018-12-04 19:23:11 UTC  

Right, I believe Gen ID has a program like that @netgearblackhawk

2018-12-04 19:27:52 UTC  

ok, finished calling all the NC reps

2018-12-04 19:27:58 UTC  

@DrewMT The political and judicial system in Europe is VERY different than here in the United States. Best not to publicly speculate on criminal prosecution, unjust or otherwise.

2018-12-04 19:29:11 UTC  

Ok I understand

2018-12-04 19:38:39 UTC  

@DrewMT I’ll cover legal costs for people within reason if it’s related to IE activism.

2018-12-04 19:38:55 UTC  

I’ve paid speeding tickets, for example, for members

2018-12-04 19:39:58 UTC  

But.... don’t break laws people!

2018-12-04 19:40:47 UTC  

@DrewMT If the time ever comes where that's an issue ( of course not due to any kind of violence on our part) it wouldn't be a bad idea to increase dues costs.

2018-12-04 19:41:54 UTC  

Activism-related speeding 🤔

2018-12-04 19:42:19 UTC  

Yeah I agree with you guys

2018-12-04 19:42:58 UTC  

If we were ever going to raise dues for legal fees, we would've already done it. If I recall correctly leadership long ago ruled this out.

2018-12-04 19:45:44 UTC  

but members are always allowed to donate more.
additing money to potential pools for activism, legal, event fundraising, etc has some possibility

2018-12-04 19:47:11 UTC  

re: <#359019439116648458>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/519600578058387467/Screen_Shot_2018-12-04_at_1.40.35_PM.png

2018-12-04 19:47:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/519600776067153932/2018-12-04_14-47-17.png

2018-12-04 19:49:55 UTC  

lol I wish UKIP was becoming the BNP

2018-12-04 19:51:18 UTC  

I gave him too much credit. I always figured his discipline was just really on point. Apparently not...

2018-12-04 19:52:55 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD I had thought the same 😕

2018-12-04 19:54:15 UTC  

Good memes though