That’s more Europe being ruled over by international elites and not a collaboration of national states working together

An EU in concept isn't bad at all, it's current shepherds just hate us lol.

@Jacob they assimilated well because they were European

@Jacob I mean overall yeah it turned out okay. Italian American culture is a very unique and rich one which I personally really like. Same with Irish American. They’ll never quite be one or the other though

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@⚡Clark⚡ @Kingfish I mean, sure, now, a century later it turned out fine. But I feel like the fact that any time there's high levels of immigration in American history, there's always anti-immigrant sentiment, it kinda begs the question of what the common variable is.

https://ideasanddata.wordpress.com/2018/08/07/the-myth-of-european-assimilation/

Also this might be worth reading

Sean Last admittedly has some pretty bad takes sometimes, but this is an interesting article

@Jacob naturally, different culture will clash. However the response to the aforementioned liberal argument that “Italians an Irish assimilated, why not everyone else?” Is that because they were white

@Virgil hell yeah

@⚡Clark⚡ I'm not so much discussing how to respond to the argument, I'm more discussion the fact the premise is wrong in the first place

I think the premise is quite accurate. Italians, Irish, and similar immigrant groups are very much so assimilated

to the anglo culture or to what

To mid-to late 20th century consumerist culture that has since dominated America

yikes

I want to say American culture, because even American Anglo culture is not exactly "Anglo". It's American.

it is distinctly Anglo though. the roots of "American" culture are Anglo

Wasp didnt like ethnic neighborhoods.

ethnic neighborhoods don't assimilate, so that makes sense

@Deleted User I think a better question to ask is what what the immediate effect was. People of Italian heritage life @Kingfish are fine members of American society, but the question is do we want a constant inflow of new people.

No

Moving black populations around in order to break up ethnic neighborhoods was tactic used by the WASP elite and jews.

Naturally no, cause we're practically not even a country if we have no stock

Unless European*** and the country can handle it

@Kingfish why on earth would any Anglo ever want to work w you lol

After the Revolutionary War and especially after the War of 1812, Americans strayed pretty far from their Anglo identity. Even in the South and Appalachia where people who are ethnically Anglo, dominate they choose to identify as American and not English or British-American.

@Sam Southern - TN they aren’t invited to

italy is waiting if you wish to be around meds only

The North Atlantic will be new Italy

To be fair the anti-Anglo thing is mostly a Larp and people just meming on them.

In all seriousness I do think America is effectively a proposition nation for most European groups whether intended to be or not

This is bordering on breaking rule 13. A bit of light hearted ethnic banter is probably fine - but there are people both purposefully saying things to get a rise out of folks, and likewise people getting mad when they shouldn't.

Let's find something else to talk about. Thanks.

God in heaven, does this have to be the topic every night?