Message from @Kingfish

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2018-12-06 00:35:24 UTC  

More conventionally and despite it's neo-liberal and self destructive core, EU proves the ability for mutual cooperation. (It sucks but it's better than nearly all attempts historically)

2018-12-06 00:35:46 UTC  

@Jacob liberals bring up that point with you? When they say we're a nation of immigrants in my experience, it's always not talking into account they're all white immigrants.

2018-12-06 00:35:58 UTC  

I've definitely heard that quote

2018-12-06 00:36:13 UTC  

That’s more Europe being ruled over by international elites and not a collaboration of national states working together

2018-12-06 00:37:25 UTC  

An EU in concept isn't bad at all, it's current shepherds just hate us lol.

2018-12-06 00:37:28 UTC  

@Jacob they assimilated well because they were European

2018-12-06 00:37:29 UTC  

@Jacob I mean overall yeah it turned out okay. Italian American culture is a very unique and rich one which I personally really like. Same with Irish American. They’ll never quite be one or the other though

2018-12-06 00:37:48 UTC  

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2018-12-06 00:38:31 UTC  

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2018-12-06 00:38:36 UTC  

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2018-12-06 00:39:15 UTC  

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2018-12-06 00:39:28 UTC  

I'm like, everything, so.

2018-12-06 00:39:29 UTC  

I’m a simple man. I see flags, I poast

2018-12-06 00:39:35 UTC  

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2018-12-06 00:40:13 UTC  

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2018-12-06 00:40:35 UTC  

@⚡Clark⚡ @Kingfish I mean, sure, now, a century later it turned out fine. But I feel like the fact that any time there's high levels of immigration in American history, there's always anti-immigrant sentiment, it kinda begs the question of what the common variable is.

2018-12-06 00:40:47 UTC  

Also this might be worth reading

2018-12-06 00:41:30 UTC  

Sean Last admittedly has some pretty bad takes sometimes, but this is an interesting article

2018-12-06 00:42:03 UTC  

@Jacob naturally, different culture will clash. However the response to the aforementioned liberal argument that “Italians an Irish assimilated, why not everyone else?” Is that because they were white

2018-12-06 00:42:51 UTC  

@Virgil hell yeah

2018-12-06 00:44:29 UTC  

@⚡Clark⚡ I'm not so much discussing how to respond to the argument, I'm more discussion the fact the premise is wrong in the first place

2018-12-06 00:46:23 UTC  

I think the premise is quite accurate. Italians, Irish, and similar immigrant groups are very much so assimilated

2018-12-06 00:46:36 UTC  

to the anglo culture or to what

2018-12-06 00:47:45 UTC  

To mid-to late 20th century consumerist culture that has since dominated America

2018-12-06 00:47:52 UTC  

yikes

2018-12-06 00:48:12 UTC  

I want to say American culture, because even American Anglo culture is not exactly "Anglo". It's American.

2018-12-06 00:48:31 UTC  

it is distinctly Anglo though. the roots of "American" culture are Anglo

2018-12-06 00:49:05 UTC  

Wasp didnt like ethnic neighborhoods.

2018-12-06 00:49:30 UTC  

ethnic neighborhoods don't assimilate, so that makes sense

2018-12-06 00:49:49 UTC  

@Deleted User I think a better question to ask is what what the immediate effect was. People of Italian heritage life @Kingfish are fine members of American society, but the question is do we want a constant inflow of new people.

2018-12-06 00:50:12 UTC  

No

2018-12-06 00:50:38 UTC  

Moving black populations around in order to break up ethnic neighborhoods was tactic used by the WASP elite and jews.

2018-12-06 00:50:45 UTC  

Naturally no, cause we're practically not even a country if we have no stock

2018-12-06 00:50:45 UTC  

Unless European*** and the country can handle it

2018-12-06 00:50:57 UTC  

@Kingfish why on earth would any Anglo ever want to work w you lol

2018-12-06 00:50:57 UTC  

After the Revolutionary War and especially after the War of 1812, Americans strayed pretty far from their Anglo identity. Even in the South and Appalachia where people who are ethnically Anglo, dominate they choose to identify as American and not English or British-American.

2018-12-06 00:51:31 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN they aren’t invited to

2018-12-06 00:51:44 UTC  

italy is waiting if you wish to be around meds only

2018-12-06 00:52:02 UTC  

The North Atlantic will be new Italy

2018-12-06 00:53:10 UTC  

To be fair the anti-Anglo thing is mostly a Larp and people just meming on them.