Without US backing, there is no real Ukrainian nationalist movement and whatever does exist is not strong enough to stop Russia

I want us to withdraw from international politics altogether personally. There's no quicker way to make European nationalism a reality than withdrawing our military protection and support

no but seriously, China benefits from being able to take a 100-year perspective on its future, rather than 4-8 years at a time like we do

or anytime Borzoi talks about China @Papa Pizzagate

but-t-t-t gommunismm is bad XDDD

I dunno about that, Russia is not exactly the most competent country in the world. Furthermore Ukrainian nationalist are heavily entrenched within the general populace.

Why shouldn't we support Russia?

communism is bad, yes.

Why should we support them?

China proves that authoritarianism is good

@Sam Southern - TN We could benefit from trade relations with other countries. From this standpoint, it's in our best interests to have good relations with Russia, and for Ukraine not to be a third world hellhole run by crazies like Azov.

@The Eternal Anglo it's a convo based on russia v the ukraine, not supporting russia in general

>not wanting an autarky

pls @Jacob

Stop paying European bills and the problems fix themselves

@reactionarytree China is more National Socialist than Communist now my dude

China is NatCap rt

Military relations benefit us too unless you're convinced we can take on the entire world.

State-Cap more than general NatCap but still

they're socialist

Globalism is supported largely by our economy

Dengist

@Jacob It isn't Azov running Ukraine into the ground, it's Poroshenko and the Putin flunky Yanukovych before him.

Socialism differs country to country

But they would be 1000 times better if they just dropped Communism entirely.

There are much better Authoritarian government to choose from.

Quick question. What is the normal width and height of a phone camera picture?

Doesn't that depend on the phone

Russia supports Liberation Theology south of the border, and its inherently antiwhite and dehumanizes us as 'evil gringos', and groups who prescribe to it oftentimes engage in narco trafficking to fund their subversive activities while simultaneously snickering at how they're poisoning our country.

ultimately, the state has authority over the economy. they "control the means of production"

@Virgil Azov supported Maidan. They're guilty in this. And Ukraine under Yanukovych was doing a lot better than it is now.

it's Marxism-Leninism-Mao-Zedong-Thought-Deng-Xiaoping-Theory, *guys*

@reactionarytree In reason yes but this government type failed Russia entirely my dude

@Sam Southern - TN I thought maybe the aspect ratio is the same at least

very well could be

We should support Russia and hope they are victorious over the globalists bc they globalists are our enemy

Also Communism IS globalism

The best political ideology is Jacob WA Thought @Alex Kolchak - NY

We should support neither and let them do whatever the hell they want. what happens in the ukraine is irrelevant

inshallah @Jacob

@The Eternal Anglo eternal revolution COMMENCE

The Soviet Union did fail. However, they also accomplished great things. Russia was a peasant country and rose to be a superpower in less than 50 years.

@Jacob Maidan had people from every side of the political spectrum and no, Yanukovych was a disaster like most other Ukrainian political leaders.