Just showed my red pilled friend Red Ice. He loves it!

@Alex Kolchak - NY yes, the British (English) were a superior people to the ones they conquered. I don't see the Chinese as a superior people to the areas that we need to keep (Europe, South Africa, most of South America, Australia, America and Canada. do you?

how? Why should the US empire stretch to Kiev?

Ultimately I'm an American Nationalist and am generally dismissive of third world countries, but I can't trust a country like Russia which in order to one up America supports a trashy communist regime like Venezuela which has wrecked their economy, anointed a literal bus driver president, and starves their own people whilst simultaneously blaming America for all of this instead of themselves, and as my avatar implies I am fairly Machiavellian. Don't trust Putin.

for that to happen, loonies like Azov need to be destroyed

China is a paper tiger.

I'll be inviting him into I.E hopefully soon, after he watches farmlands and some more stuff

But so is America

LMAO we're screwed

@Papa Pizzagate you gotta meet my gf sometime, she studies China and she will scare the daylights out of you

UUUhhh dont you mean paper Dragon 😃

from an isolationist pov, theres no reason for the USA to intervene in Ukraine

there's no reason for us to support russia from an isolationist perspective either

@Alex Kolchak - NY She's that ugly, huh? Okay...

Dunk

just like there was no reason for USA to go into Yugoslavia or Kosovo or Iraq or Libya

OK THATS IT MEET ME IN RUNESCAPE @Papa Pizzagate

or Syria

Azov feeds into the larger narrative of "all nationalists are retarded spergs who throw up romans". We benefit from them failing at all that they do.

America doesn't benefit one way or the other afaik

Without US backing, there is no real Ukrainian nationalist movement and whatever does exist is not strong enough to stop Russia

I want us to withdraw from international politics altogether personally. There's no quicker way to make European nationalism a reality than withdrawing our military protection and support

no but seriously, China benefits from being able to take a 100-year perspective on its future, rather than 4-8 years at a time like we do

or anytime Borzoi talks about China @Papa Pizzagate

but-t-t-t gommunismm is bad XDDD

I dunno about that, Russia is not exactly the most competent country in the world. Furthermore Ukrainian nationalist are heavily entrenched within the general populace.

Why shouldn't we support Russia?

communism is bad, yes.

Why should we support them?

China proves that authoritarianism is good

@Sam Southern - TN We could benefit from trade relations with other countries. From this standpoint, it's in our best interests to have good relations with Russia, and for Ukraine not to be a third world hellhole run by crazies like Azov.

@The Eternal Anglo it's a convo based on russia v the ukraine, not supporting russia in general

>not wanting an autarky

pls @Jacob

Stop paying European bills and the problems fix themselves

@reactionarytree China is more National Socialist than Communist now my dude

China is NatCap rt

Military relations benefit us too unless you're convinced we can take on the entire world.

State-Cap more than general NatCap but still

they're socialist

Globalism is supported largely by our economy

Dengist