Message from @Gimlet

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2018-12-08 00:51:19 UTC  

I talk to a handful of guys that day who came alone. They were all kind of weirdos. If your in a racist 'fraternity' you are a bit of a weirdo. If any of you autists ended up in jail I would lament and not be a f*g about it

2018-12-08 00:51:34 UTC  

If blacks will excuse their most heinous of criminals despite how those same criminals terrorize their own communities I will speak up for the rights of an innocent white man when it is appropriate.

2018-12-08 00:51:34 UTC  

Oath keepers were pointing rifles at everyone

2018-12-08 00:52:20 UTC  

I think that there is an argument to be made on both sides.

2018-12-08 00:52:25 UTC  

This

2018-12-08 00:52:56 UTC  

@TylerHess Blacks will also disavow members who do bad things and they also have people saying "what an innocent young lad".

2018-12-08 00:53:09 UTC  

It's giving me adrenaline thinking about all of this and cville

2018-12-08 00:53:21 UTC  

@Flint There's a good strategy: distance and minimalize.

2018-12-08 00:53:25 UTC  

I still have webms on my computer of nationalists marching and shouting "blood and soil". I was so proud

2018-12-08 00:54:35 UTC  

I miss how things were prior to UTR.

2018-12-08 00:54:36 UTC  

It would actually be beneficial to IE if a public statement was made regarding how we cannot comment on this due to an ongoing law suit.

2018-12-08 00:54:39 UTC  

I will have to find them

2018-12-08 00:56:12 UTC  

Patrick and the team make great decisions regarding media engageme t

2018-12-08 00:56:13 UTC  

Not standing up for railroaded white people is a very bad look

2018-12-08 00:56:22 UTC  

I think the less we publicly draw attention to ourselves + Cville, the better. A statement on something that has nothing to do with us officially will only reinforce the link between us and that disaster.

2018-12-08 00:56:49 UTC  

As individuals, stand with Fields if you feel so inclined.

2018-12-08 00:56:59 UTC  

And the death of law and order is certainly note worthy for an Identitarian group

2018-12-08 00:57:13 UTC  

>making passive aggressive digs at who you view as the opposing side on this issue
“Surely this will bridge this divide!”

2018-12-08 00:57:18 UTC  

Pick your battles

2018-12-08 00:57:20 UTC  

Fields' situation is very regrettable. He was dealt a bad hand the day he was born. I think the best we can do now is hope for a successful appeal.

2018-12-08 00:57:20 UTC  
2018-12-08 00:57:25 UTC  

Ask yourself what we can gain and what we can lose

2018-12-08 00:57:44 UTC  

“IE defends convicted murderers” isn’t a “good look” lol

2018-12-08 00:57:48 UTC  

Strategy, not emotion, is what guides leadership

2018-12-08 00:58:08 UTC  
2018-12-08 00:58:10 UTC  

Volk I don't know who you are directing that towards, who is making these comments ?

2018-12-08 00:58:19 UTC  

Is part of our strategy to ignore how upset people are about this sham trial?

2018-12-08 00:58:34 UTC  

Your comment in and of itself was being passive

2018-12-08 00:58:50 UTC  

^this

2018-12-08 00:58:51 UTC  

Tensions are high and we all have strong thoughts on the matter

2018-12-08 00:58:54 UTC  

But

2018-12-08 00:58:56 UTC  

Speak up son

2018-12-08 00:58:59 UTC  

We are all together in this.

2018-12-08 00:59:22 UTC  

We aren’t ignoring it, Patrick addressed it on Twitter during the trial and stated that legally, it’s a bad idea for us to do or say much about it

2018-12-08 00:59:31 UTC  

What happened to Fields was regrettable but the leadership are handling it in the best they can with the org being entangled in a lawsuit as well.

2018-12-08 01:00:08 UTC  

Everybody, nobody in particular.

2018-12-08 01:00:22 UTC  

I don’t see much good faith.

2018-12-08 01:01:18 UTC  

Just so we're clear the standard of guilt is 'beyound a reasonable doubt', and the evidence ive seen couldnt even begin to convince any reasonable trier of fact of the necessary element of express malice, not even 'clear and convincing' which is the next level at 90%. You could even say 'I think there's an 80% chance he's guilty' and that would not be enough to convict.

2018-12-08 01:01:22 UTC  

Tbh I really don't see what there is to fight about here.

2018-12-08 01:01:25 UTC  

PS I love you all regardless