Or problems

When instead they can take initiative to fix the problems at hand

@thangoosesbeats I've been sending them for awhile lol so I think we can

aaahh

wait lemme share my current fav one

Oki

Matt. 5 Verses 11 to 12
[11] Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. [12] Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. This part is what i like man....

Mhm its a nice verse

evil exist because there is good... good exist because there is evil.... truth exists because there is lies... we get to know the value of good and peace because of evil.... if God only created good then we wouldnt know the value of being good or have peace....

@thangoosesbeats God never wanted us to sin though that was a choice adam and eve made against him. before that everything in creation was good

its the consequence of having knowledge of both good and evil

we used to be innocent

@thangoosesbeats Evil does not exist as a thing of itself like goodness can. Evil is by nature a parasitic value against the natural good state of the world. So while evil exists because of good, good exists on its own and can survive without evil.

Evil has no authentic ontological status like good does.

So to briefly explain how this works, I'll use Frank Turek's analogy on this issue:
You can take out the rust out of the car and get a good clean car, but take the car out of the rust and you get no car, and certainly no rust, thus; nothing.

as darkness is merely the absence of light Evil is simply the absence of God

loosely quoted

from Albert Einstein I believe

yup thats him

@Zallis The Pokemon A bit late to your comment, I was busy. On blaming others for the sins of the past,... *Here is a hypothetical* My Father comes home affected by the war he was in. To deal with what he sees, he drinks and beats me and my siblings. As a consequence, I see this as an appropriate means of disciplining ones children. I do this to my own children. My son flees from me and due to him being starved of affection, begins drinking and doing drugs. He overdoses. Who is more responsible for the latest generations failure? Themselves? Their parents? There grandparents? Every generation partook in the chain of sin. It does not matter who started it. You chose to become another link in the chain and are to be damned alongside the others. Only through breaking the chain can you be free. It is a useless endeavor to trace the lineage of the origins of the chain to render blaim on someone. It will always, without fail, trace back to the Fall of Man. The first time Man defied God.

Anyone know what biblically accurate angels look like?

This picture I'm about to post is one of an Ophanim. The holiest of angels.

There are different kinds of angels, some look like humans, other with different pairs of wings

They obviously aren't 100% correct

More human like angels are the Cherubim.

They have the face of a man, the face of a lion, the face of an ox, and the face of an eagle.

If you don't believe me which some might not, look at David, chapter 10 I belive

No, Ezekiel

I can't remember if the Ophanim are by themselves, or I think they have a Cherubim inside

@Raging Smurf Zallis wasn't blaming anyone. He just talked bout the first sin. We are all children of adam and eve. Their disobedience caused the pain and suffering to occur. Same goes with your hypothetical if grandfather wasnt alcoholic and child abuser, then the son and grandson would be fine.

me when catholics say anything

@DeButcher I know he wasn't. I was just commenting on how some people would try to excuse their own bad behavior by saying someone else is responsible.

Yeah, you are responsible for your own sin

Can't blame anyone but yourself

And each generation would sic the responsibility onto someone else until they run out scapegoats.

Oh boy theodicy

My second favorite subject, other than anti-Romanism

We ate the apple

Discussion over