you think the world wars were ''tests'' to see if men stayed close to god even in death-close times?

Well

God doesn't send the tests

We create them

God didn't create the conditions for WW2

We did

We can free ourselves of this cycle, however, through Christian living

*That's* the test

if you do what is right will you not be accepted? but if you do not do what is right sin is crouching at your door and desires to have you, but you must master it. Genesis 4:7

Quoting Genesis lol

is there a problem with that

The context delegitimizes your use of the verse

no it doesnt

Yes it does

> The Lord looked with favor on Abel and his offering, 5 but on Cain and his offering he did not look with favor. So Cain was very angry, and his face was downcast.
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> 6 Then the Lord said to Cain, “Why are you angry? Why is your face downcast? 7 If you do what is right, will you not be accepted? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”

How does the full context not still apply?

It's not anything about doing what is right in the context of Chrisitan living

it doesnt change the meaning of the verse at all

It's about God telling Cain "yo home boy stop being so salty I like your brother more than you"

It's about jealousy

That's your understanding.

Bitch no it aint

Literally read the fucking quote

Hey calm it down.

Mormon

no

This is for civil discussions about religion.

Part of it may be jealousy but that doesnt take away from doing the right thing

The "right thing" is Cain remaining calm and a good farmer despite his brother receiving greater praise

So...don't be jealous

You should've stuck with ol reliable John 3:16

I see that part, I just think that one verse can give more than one message

They can and do

no

There you get denominationalism

"Hey, easily interpretable verse A means X, so that means Denomination D is false."

Switch around letters ad nauseum

Verse means Verse.

That would be a problem if you took the same verse to mean opposite things, but that's not the case here

imma go for a bit let me know if anyone has prayer requests

@KaywinnitLee sorry late to the conversation, you can let your kids go to school, but make sure to teach them christian values and check on them on things they are learning in school. Best way to prevent them from being sheeps. I understand schools do some dumb stuff.