Message from @BryceB-ND

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2018-12-08 00:47:03 UTC  

@missliterallywho I agree, she was coming at him

2018-12-08 00:47:13 UTC  

The organization should not publicly take a stance on this matter but we as private individuals and the broader movement absolutely should when addressing those to whom it would resonate with. Nonetheless, if the broader movement doesnt understand why IE doesnt take a public stance while engaged in ongoing legal action and optics building they are stupid or as in the case with Spencer and co just being subversive.

2018-12-08 00:47:44 UTC  

@Koba I am sorry that you feel so strongly about Fields. What would you propose we do, realistically?

2018-12-08 00:48:04 UTC  

Stop being so holier than thou

2018-12-08 00:48:04 UTC  

To be fair, as a new guy, IE does seem to care a lot about it's members.

2018-12-08 00:48:24 UTC  

Idk, perhaps something as simple as not dehumanize & justify the extreme & preposterous conspiracy that the enemy is clearly engaging in against him. @Papa Pizzagate

2018-12-08 00:48:30 UTC  

I think Fields panicked because he was being attacked. I certainly think his trial is being used as a warning to the rest of us

2018-12-08 00:48:42 UTC  

@Flint That's only if you can convince them that antifa were the ones responsible.

2018-12-08 00:48:47 UTC  

>all these conversations rn
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2018-12-08 00:49:03 UTC  

@Koba is right, though. There are many factors that come into play when deciding not to make a statement on an event like this

2018-12-08 00:49:24 UTC  

Utterly ice cold takes tonight.

2018-12-08 00:49:26 UTC  

@Flint I agree.

2018-12-08 00:49:30 UTC  

A young kid panicked in a crowd and made a massive mistake. He is having an example made of him. It could have easily have been any one of us who, under bad judgement, took that wrong turn in Chatlottesville that day.

2018-12-08 00:49:32 UTC  

I'd be fine if the organization didn't do anything about fields. It would be cool if y'all had a less gay attitude about it though.

2018-12-08 00:49:35 UTC  

I was there and saw the chaos

2018-12-08 00:49:38 UTC  

Silence can be seen as lack of support. Even a public statement saying we can't comment on it bc we are in a lawsuit would put many at ease

2018-12-08 00:49:39 UTC  

It was a madhouse

2018-12-08 00:49:45 UTC  

So was Ian

2018-12-08 00:49:53 UTC  

Indeed, but everyone who came knew to walk out together.

2018-12-08 00:49:59 UTC  

Unfortunately he came alone.

2018-12-08 00:50:06 UTC  

Very unfortunate.

2018-12-08 00:50:08 UTC  

@BryceB-ND I agree with this statement.

2018-12-08 00:50:30 UTC  

But I will say that imo Fields is completely innocent, perhaps guilty of negligence at the very most, bad optics are weak evidence for establishing the express malice of first degree murder, many people commit murder and other crimes who are liberal or apolitical, and the vast majority of those with bad optics are not criminals although they do make me worry at times.

2018-12-08 00:50:30 UTC  

I also went to cville alone

2018-12-08 00:50:34 UTC  

It could have been me

2018-12-08 00:50:41 UTC  

But I also used my head

2018-12-08 00:50:48 UTC  

I’m pictured next to the guy. I personally still stand with him and felt that verdict Ike it was my own

2018-12-08 00:50:54 UTC  

@CarletonJ did you have a rifle pointed at you?

2018-12-08 00:50:59 UTC  

@DairyMaxx It really won't be fine. Moments like these add up

2018-12-08 00:51:05 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN probably more so than not

2018-12-08 00:51:08 UTC  

I was on the front

2018-12-08 00:51:19 UTC  

I talk to a handful of guys that day who came alone. They were all kind of weirdos. If your in a racist 'fraternity' you are a bit of a weirdo. If any of you autists ended up in jail I would lament and not be a f*g about it

2018-12-08 00:51:34 UTC  

If blacks will excuse their most heinous of criminals despite how those same criminals terrorize their own communities I will speak up for the rights of an innocent white man when it is appropriate.

2018-12-08 00:51:34 UTC  

Oath keepers were pointing rifles at everyone

2018-12-08 00:52:20 UTC  

I think that there is an argument to be made on both sides.

2018-12-08 00:52:25 UTC  

This

2018-12-08 00:52:56 UTC  

@TylerHess Blacks will also disavow members who do bad things and they also have people saying "what an innocent young lad".

2018-12-08 00:53:09 UTC  

It's giving me adrenaline thinking about all of this and cville

2018-12-08 00:53:21 UTC  

@Flint There's a good strategy: distance and minimalize.

2018-12-08 00:53:25 UTC  

I still have webms on my computer of nationalists marching and shouting "blood and soil". I was so proud

2018-12-08 00:54:35 UTC  

I miss how things were prior to UTR.