Message from @Milkgamer55

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2020-12-20 06:47:47 UTC  

If you go to hell you don’t ever get out. Hell isn’t a place to atone for sins. One can never stone for their sins

2020-12-20 06:47:54 UTC  

Same lol

2020-12-20 06:47:55 UTC  

no. i already said i acknowledge i'm sinful. i just don't acknowledge the "payment" method

2020-12-20 06:48:11 UTC  

West coast gang. 😃

2020-12-20 06:48:13 UTC  

Yeah

2020-12-20 06:48:29 UTC  

So you would rather spend eternity suffering when you could chose God?

2020-12-20 06:48:33 UTC  

Ok that wasn’t my question. If you acknowledge your sins and know the gravity of your affront you won’t feel guilty?

2020-12-20 06:48:35 UTC  

@Rocci you have Porcupioneer

2020-12-20 06:48:36 UTC  

why would you not want to have your sins forgiven?

2020-12-20 06:48:45 UTC  

asking is not proving you're worthy of being forgiven

2020-12-20 06:48:57 UTC  

You don't have to be "worthy"

2020-12-20 06:49:00 UTC  

You’re not

2020-12-20 06:49:05 UTC  

And you never can be

2020-12-20 06:49:25 UTC  

Im not worthy of being forgiven But jesus did anyways

2020-12-20 06:49:59 UTC  

It's not a system of credit and debit, it's a parent and child relationship.

2020-12-20 06:50:17 UTC  

yes its a relationship

2020-12-20 06:50:17 UTC  

It's a black spot on your soul. But Jesus took that black spot when he died.

2020-12-20 06:50:21 UTC  

I don't know if this has anything to do with religion.

2020-12-20 06:50:26 UTC  

but you don't know if you don't try. what is in hell waiting for us?

2020-12-20 06:50:30 UTC  

Alright let’s let him respond lol

2020-12-20 06:50:38 UTC  

God is the parent and we are the childs

2020-12-20 06:50:59 UTC  

i am guilty. i don't want double-guilty by transferring my guilt over to someone else

2020-12-20 06:51:08 UTC  

It's different interpretations and world outlook.

2020-12-20 06:51:42 UTC  

That doesn't make you guilty when Jesus took them from you willingly.

2020-12-20 06:51:45 UTC  

that's fair. but parents sometimes need to cast the child aside (or vice versa) for it to grow

2020-12-20 06:51:59 UTC  

Yes, we do know. Trying isn’t the thing here. The Bible makes it clear that human “trying” is literally us running in the wrong direction. That said what awaits in Hell is suffering. Worse suffering than ever. If you’d like to know why then I could try to explain but I’m not fully educated on the matter

2020-12-20 06:52:14 UTC  

God is the father that never leaves

2020-12-20 06:52:47 UTC  

If God left us we would be so toast

2020-12-20 06:53:15 UTC  

well. "worst suffering" and "eternal suffering" is a price we must pay as humans if we commit those sins. it's on us

2020-12-20 06:53:39 UTC  

There is no double guilty. If you’re guilty of sinning then you are already guilty of being the reason Jesus died. That makes you an accessory. If you accept Jesus what He does is decide to forgive you for being the reason He died (in its simpler form)

2020-12-20 06:53:40 UTC  

i'm not anywhere close to salvation 😂 i don't know if i can or will

2020-12-20 06:53:45 UTC  

You don't have to pay the eternal suffering, Jesus paid the fine for your sins

2020-12-20 06:53:51 UTC  

U right, and although a parent can pay for the damages a child makes (breaks a window), a child still needs to make some "pennance". So it isn't really a get out of jail free card.

2020-12-20 06:54:03 UTC  

No,because you’re not understanding what “sin” truly is

2020-12-20 06:54:19 UTC  

Thats where repentance comes in

2020-12-20 06:54:31 UTC  

That's right

2020-12-20 06:54:45 UTC  

We are to not only stop sinning but run the other way

2020-12-20 06:55:21 UTC  

it felt wrong, though. i don't think i'm worthy for god/jesus to die for me just for i can enjoy good things

2020-12-20 06:55:21 UTC  

I love how Jesus says "Go and sin no more"

2020-12-20 06:55:27 UTC  

Man we gotta give him more time to respond lol

2020-12-20 06:56:53 UTC  

it's not something you can pay back quickly and it's ingrained in our system. but in Buddhism people are allowed to be sinners, with all their flaws. but if they express regrets and remorse, they will be free earlier