Message from @DairyMaxx
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If anybody in IE got into a situation like Fields, I believe virtually everybody would exercise enough self control, not to plow into a crowd of bystanders because they feared for their lives. James Fields is not the hill we should choose to die on.
A good statement made 2 days ago. Given the verdict of the trial, we might want to make another one (as we all know, no one is going to scroll down that far for it)
https://twitter.com/PatrickCaseyIE/status/1070558720277536773
@DairyMaxx I mean an *"attitude"*, like a bratty teen girl
Virgil it is so easy to say when you were not in that car with mobs around you.
Alone
agreed
What was the name of the guy who died in the LA riots? Dragged from his car and beaten?
Reginald Denny?
@Flint It's not a good idea for us to comment on it publicly for our case, and it won't make a difference in particular.
In this case I think I can speak for "leadership" and say that we simply accepted from the beginning that a conviction was likely and prepared ourselves accordingly.
Things could get a lot worse and the answer here is to respond with an unprecedented level of organization. The military has a slogan: "Embrace the suck" and the alt right had "Surf the Kali Yuga."
Obviously, there's no harm in some necessary decompression, but I hope my announcement can remind people to reorient quickly.
He didn't die.
But he was beaten brutally.
*nearly died
Pardon me
nods 😃
Reginald Denny survived by the grace of God, he had bricks thrown at his unconscious head
@BryceB-ND Self control is key, this is a dissident political organization/movement if we don't exercise masterful self control, then situations like this are going to keep happening. We shouldn't make excuses for a lack of it.
It is disturbing if the precedent is now that white guys like Denny have to accept being beaten
Were you there with black people following you with baseball bats?
Serious
>Blaming the victim, tbh.
They had no right to be in the street, to be there during a state of emergency, and to violently disrupt a lawful gathering
@Virgil that sounds well and good but I'd still bet 1/2 this organization would plow through that crowd.
@Matthias Basically, ya. After experiencing just how rigged C'ville's system was against us, I felt it was just better to assume the worst for JAF, and then I'd feel no level of disappointment because I was prepared mentally for it. Now that it's done, I'm accepting of it and know the best thing to do is to look forward.
I believe you might have great discipline
But to assume you would have acted with military style calmness is not an attribute I assume most have
I do believe had Fields not made the regrettable decision to drive through the crowd he would have suffered the even more regrettable fate of being dragged from his car and beaten within an inch of his life.
I was there too, not that it matters.
Especially not some ditzy 20 year old kid
I have to get going for a couple of hours, but I want to clarify my view(my view, not IE's) and statements earlier.
Obviously the trial was an effective kangaroo court, and obviously there is a certain degree of nuance surrounding the Fields collision - You may disagree with my view on the guy, his situation and how he handled it and what else could have been done...but know I look on the situation and the guy with great sadness and pity - and nothing more.
I just don't find it productive to dwell on the case or comment on, what in my opinion, is largely Cville revisionism - both personally and for our organization.
It's up to his appeals now, and I will certainly be keeping the kid in my prayers.
What is most concerning to me is that all of the arguments made by the prosecutors were defeated by evidence.
I think if we are to ascribe any blame to Fields it's that he didn't come in a group in order to know to walk out on foot back to McIntyre. I'm not comfortable going on to speculate about what he should or shouldn't have done after he went down that street.
Perhaps, and ya I have been in 2 different wars and I guess my experience with shitty situations has helped me to come to grips with future potential shitty situations.
But they still came to the conclusion that he was guilty on *all* accounts + 30 federal hate crimes
@Matthias agreed
"Cville revisionism" l o fucking l
The frogs will continue to boil.
in other news
It's evident that he experienced a modern day witch trial.
spencer called Patrick a 'creepy incel'
Yeah, woof @Isabella Locke-MT
Ian had a good reply to that one.
@Isabella Locke-MT Our comments on that have almost as many likes as RS's post