“IE defends convicted murderers” isn’t a “good look” lol

Strategy, not emotion, is what guides leadership

<:nervous:359009898115104770>: https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1071121230462312449

Volk I don't know who you are directing that towards, who is making these comments ?

Is part of our strategy to ignore how upset people are about this sham trial?

Your comment in and of itself was being passive

^this

Tensions are high and we all have strong thoughts on the matter

But

Speak up son

We are all together in this.

We aren’t ignoring it, Patrick addressed it on Twitter during the trial and stated that legally, it’s a bad idea for us to do or say much about it

What happened to Fields was regrettable but the leadership are handling it in the best they can with the org being entangled in a lawsuit as well.

Everybody, nobody in particular.

I don’t see much good faith.

Just so we're clear the standard of guilt is 'beyound a reasonable doubt', and the evidence ive seen couldnt even begin to convince any reasonable trier of fact of the necessary element of express malice, not even 'clear and convincing' which is the next level at 90%. You could even say 'I think there's an 80% chance he's guilty' and that would not be enough to convict.

Tbh I really don't see what there is to fight about here.

PS I love you all regardless

@missliterallywho attitudes

Well said @TylerHess

@DairyMaxx but like, why have an attitude

@missliterallywho can't not

If anybody in IE got into a situation like Fields, I believe virtually everybody would exercise enough self control, not to plow into a crowd of bystanders because they feared for their lives. James Fields is not the hill we should choose to die on.

A good statement made 2 days ago. Given the verdict of the trial, we might want to make another one (as we all know, no one is going to scroll down that far for it)

https://twitter.com/PatrickCaseyIE/status/1070558720277536773

@DairyMaxx I mean an *"attitude"*, like a bratty teen girl

Virgil it is so easy to say when you were not in that car with mobs around you.

Alone

agreed

What was the name of the guy who died in the LA riots? Dragged from his car and beaten?

Reginald Denny?

@Flint It's not a good idea for us to comment on it publicly for our case, and it won't make a difference in particular.

In this case I think I can speak for "leadership" and say that we simply accepted from the beginning that a conviction was likely and prepared ourselves accordingly.

Things could get a lot worse and the answer here is to respond with an unprecedented level of organization. The military has a slogan: "Embrace the suck" and the alt right had "Surf the Kali Yuga."

Obviously, there's no harm in some necessary decompression, but I hope my announcement can remind people to reorient quickly.

He didn't die.

But he was beaten brutally.

*nearly died

Pardon me

nods 😃

Reginald Denny survived by the grace of God, he had bricks thrown at his unconscious head

@BryceB-ND Self control is key, this is a dissident political organization/movement if we don't exercise masterful self control, then situations like this are going to keep happening. We shouldn't make excuses for a lack of it.

It is disturbing if the precedent is now that white guys like Denny have to accept being beaten

Were you there with black people following you with baseball bats?

Serious