Message from Myndrian in Nice Respectable People Group #general

2018-12-08 19:21:48 UTC  

And then I don’t know where to borrow the same amount of zeal from say like Judaism and Islam two very zealous group evolutionary strategies

2018-12-08 19:23:59 UTC  

The idea of white people ever seeing their ancestry in a religiousesque level *before* winning, is nonsensical. It can be propogandized once in control, but it’s not going to work as a strategy *to* win

2018-12-08 19:26:17 UTC  

White Identity most likely will have to piggy back on a proxy to gain momentum

2018-12-08 19:26:31 UTC  

I think focusing on the physical dangers individuals face from multiracialism and forced diversity is a more effective way to awaken people than focusing on the spiritual aspect just yet. We're more inclined to turn non-religious people away by prioritizing the latter.

2018-12-08 19:28:56 UTC  

@Myndrian That may be true, but it only works on people who share the same religion or religious history. I don't think many Buddhists would be motivated by hellfire for instance. Only Christians or people with a Christian upbringing would be swayed by that. It's a strategy for the in-group.

2018-12-08 19:29:10 UTC  

I think the spiritual aspect is important when addressing the Jewish predicament

2018-12-08 19:30:04 UTC  

If you aren’t playing on a spiritual level when you’re fighting against the tribe you’re fighting from a weaker foundation

2018-12-08 19:31:34 UTC  

Also. I think many secular leftists have a repurposed version of Christian belief that has its own Good v Evil, Saints, commandments, sins, etc.

2018-12-08 19:32:04 UTC  

The left is literally evil. Notch gets it

2018-12-08 19:33:07 UTC  

They already speak in a zealous manner, just with their own secular political beliefs.

2018-12-08 19:33:45 UTC  

@⚡Clark⚡ the left and right dichotomy is the easy to read version of the actual political battle for normies. I really do see it as evil vs good, with varying levels in between

2018-12-08 19:33:52 UTC  

@⚡Clark⚡ makes a good point

2018-12-08 19:33:57 UTC  

And that is mainly my point

2018-12-08 19:34:11 UTC  

Not that I’m spiritual

2018-12-08 19:35:05 UTC  

Mainly atheist/agnostic but I used to be mormon and realize my zeal was never higher than when I thought myself to be completely chosen by god

2018-12-08 19:35:29 UTC  

So that is my point. But there are definitely flaws in such a worldview I’m sure

2018-12-08 19:39:59 UTC  

I’m just kind of rambling but wanted to hear all your thoughts. I guess my main point is how does a secular ideology compete with religious like zeal? Cause in aspect I think generally they lose, but I don’t know much concerning history besides the Mormons definitely did concede to the US out west

2018-12-08 19:40:15 UTC  

Obviously a big secular group has tamed many religious groups

2018-12-08 19:40:17 UTC  

Sadly some people out there aren't able to discern between religiosity and spirituality. It's getting better though

2018-12-08 19:41:21 UTC  

The secular and even often anti-religiousity of the asian communist movements were quite zealous..

2018-12-08 19:42:49 UTC  

Definitely true. Do you think it’s cause communism is like crazy idealism? Aiming for this Utopia/pie in the sky/ heaven on earth?

2018-12-08 19:42:59 UTC  

So essentially heaven in a lot of ways

2018-12-08 19:43:26 UTC  

It’s probably difficult to delineate ideological/religious Utopianism, for the purposes of the strength of conviction

2018-12-08 19:44:21 UTC  

Heaven on earth = 100,000,000 deaths

2018-12-08 19:46:11 UTC  

It’s very important to distinguish “a desire for improvement” from “a desire for perfection.” The latter leads to some dark places when perfection never comes.

2018-12-08 19:46:40 UTC  

Especially when you try to establish heaven on earth top-bottom style ya

2018-12-08 19:46:53 UTC  

I'm chanting "WE WANT WALLS!"

2018-12-08 19:46:54 UTC  

I’m dying and going to heaven type belief is harmless ahah

2018-12-08 19:47:56 UTC  

@ophiuchus Also consider the desire for individual improvement versus societal improvement makes a difference.

2018-12-08 19:48:52 UTC  

Is saying "congratulations" an appropriate answer when you find out an acquaintance is jewish?

2018-12-08 19:49:31 UTC  

I didn't know what else to say

2018-12-08 19:50:40 UTC  


2018-12-08 19:50:47 UTC  

I’m always like “that’s cool”

2018-12-08 19:52:33 UTC  

In hindsight that probably would've been better.
I was nice about it and she smiled and said thanks, but couldn't hide those "is he patronizing me?" eyes

2018-12-08 19:58:39 UTC  

I just say "Oh wow, that's awesome!"

2018-12-08 19:59:47 UTC  

"weird flex, but okay"

2018-12-08 20:03:14 UTC  

I think the, "Utopia" as an ideal that happens almost immediately is false, and is used more as a lie to promote a evil ideology. One of them being Communism. I don't think an actual, morally sound Utopia would call itself a, "Utopia." Why convince yourself and others of what is already possible? You only have to convince others you're something that you're not, if you have something to hide.

2018-12-08 20:03:15 UTC  

I usually don’t say anything because we’ve generally long been knew by the point they tell you.

2018-12-08 20:06:34 UTC  

@Goose I'd say..."shalom"

2018-12-08 20:06:46 UTC  

Also, I hope you Identitarians have gone to the gym and read some books!

Never stop self improving 💪