Message from @Jacob

Discord ID: 521074904435785728


2018-12-08 20:57:09 UTC  

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2018-12-08 20:57:51 UTC  

I’ll look into it but doesn’t someone else’s agreeance on an object’s characteristics give validation that the object exists outside ourselves? @The Eternal Anglo

2018-12-08 20:58:25 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo The current Japanese government are fake conservatives. They put economic growth above all else.

2018-12-08 20:59:33 UTC  

An object exists in with us and outside of our natural perception when not being observed, but it shouldn't matter how many people are observing one object at any given time, since the atoms already pre determine when to be physical or in wave lengths before hand

2018-12-08 21:00:10 UTC  

@Gregory - NC just my take on the whole, "higher being" topic <:galaxybrain:366743669484683264>

2018-12-08 21:00:24 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo I’ll take a look into the subject. Thank you.

2018-12-08 21:02:21 UTC  

Japan is a different situation entirely if they start flooding their Country with third worlders, because unlike the many European Nations we have, each with their own different situations, and places we could flock to.... there is only one Japan. Once they become red pilled, that's it, there isn't much stopping that at all.

2018-12-08 21:09:40 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo That's true.

2018-12-08 21:12:52 UTC  

Quantum science is crackpot Jewish science.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/521071690747215873/image0.jpg

2018-12-08 21:13:05 UTC  

A funny meme, but it is 100% accurate.

2018-12-08 21:14:30 UTC  

“Things don’t have identity until we observe them... I can’t ever observe this, never. I have no empiracle tests to prove this, because the moment I test, the thing has identity, but I know it doesn’t until I test.”

You can’t even call it a “theory.” That is grossly stretching the word.

2018-12-08 21:16:38 UTC  

And now it leads to things like this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/521072639842713608/image0.png

2018-12-08 21:21:56 UTC  

Corrupting physics/metaphysics is the first step in corrupting our culture and our people. Once you deny identity and causality, you get away with anything.

2018-12-08 21:23:45 UTC  

He looks like a nightmare

2018-12-08 21:24:39 UTC  

okay here's the thing

2018-12-08 21:24:42 UTC  

how can free will exist

2018-12-08 21:24:48 UTC  

if genes affect behavior?

2018-12-08 21:25:00 UTC  

or you can affect behavior by messing with part of the brain?

2018-12-08 21:25:23 UTC  

if you jam a rod into my head at the right spot, you could probably make me a liberal

2018-12-08 21:25:36 UTC  

Oh boy...

2018-12-08 21:25:38 UTC  

this has happened to people in the past

2018-12-08 21:25:55 UTC  

do I really have free will if I can turn liberal by being stabbed the right way?

2018-12-08 21:26:03 UTC  

That’s like saying free will can’t exist because we can’t fly

2018-12-08 21:26:16 UTC  

Physical reality inhibits my free will. No.

2018-12-08 21:26:57 UTC  

No, because you can try to fly all you want. If I have the right genes or a rod in the right part of my head, I will cease to even want to not be liberal.

2018-12-08 21:27:56 UTC  

This is a lifeboat scenario that isn’t relevant. You don’t make philosophical conclusions by exceptions. You wouldn’t say, for example, humans have 6 toes because some humans have 6 toes.

2018-12-08 21:28:23 UTC  

An abnormally functioning brain is not an argument against normally functioning ones

2018-12-08 21:28:49 UTC  

Let's say I'm super based and redpilled identitarian right until the second I get stabbed. Now I'm suddenly liberal vegan satanist. Doesn't that imply at least some parts of the brain are involved in determinism?

2018-12-08 21:28:55 UTC  

It's not just malfunctioning though

2018-12-08 21:29:06 UTC  

Genes influence behavior in normal people, too

2018-12-08 21:29:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/521075881247244301/nff4ugc2hx221.png

2018-12-08 21:30:06 UTC  

These are preconditions upon which will is built. You’re, perhaps accidentally, separating mind and body

2018-12-08 21:31:29 UTC  

I read an article that said a certain type of magnet could be used to make someone less religious/more accepting of refugees

2018-12-08 21:36:14 UTC  

@Alexander Pechorin If there's preconditions, is the will entirely free?

2018-12-08 21:36:40 UTC  

I think I’ll keep my threat-processing ability, thanks

broke: they’re taking away your guns
woke: they’re taking away your brain

2018-12-08 21:37:27 UTC  

@Isabella Locke-MT That's a good example of what I'm talking about. If the parts of the brain can be modified to do something else, then clearly they were already determined to do something.

2018-12-08 21:37:28 UTC  

Of course, objective constraints of reality are never a denial of your freedom

2018-12-08 21:38:20 UTC  

No. Impulses and tendencies are not the same thing as will

2018-12-08 21:38:47 UTC  

What, then, is determinism? If the objective constraints are within your brain itself, is that not at least some form of determinism?

2018-12-08 21:39:35 UTC  

No. Determinism and free will have very little to do with emotions or tendencies.

Let’s define free will: “the ability to act at one's own discretion.”