Message from @ophiuchus

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2018-12-12 10:26:38 UTC  

Went somewhere for dinner that said it was 5 stars on Yelp. Ended up being a strip club.

2018-12-12 10:26:49 UTC  

Finished my beer and bailed.

2018-12-12 10:27:14 UTC  

Try showing up as the clearly American White dude in a sport coat and not get nagged for money constantly.

2018-12-12 10:35:42 UTC  

It's a worthy consideration. I don't know if you've heard the "race didn't exist until the age of colonization" argument before, but what you're talking about is something kind of similar. The "race didn't exist before colonization" thing is *almost* true, it's just talking about the wrong thing. Genetic population clusters which we call races very much did exist before the age of colonization, but we didn't know about them. A 9th century French peasant might not have even known black people, for example, existed, so of course his conceptualization of his ethnic relation was different. It's only through comparison that differences arise, and when Europeans discovered the rest of the world and met its people, they were able to understand that, for example, the Spanish and the English were more similar to each other than either was to Bantus in Africa or Malays in Indonesia. As their frame of reference expanded, they were able to differentiate people on another level of (dis)similarity- on one plane, between Europeans, and on another, more basal plane, Europeans from other races, such as Africans. While historically this happened "externally," meaning that Europeans were able to perceive this level of racial dissimilarity because they traveled abroad to meet those of other races, the same thing could be happening today "internally." As people from the Europe start to interact *en masse* with people from other racial groups, they might begin to perceive the differences their ancestors did centuries ago and begin to distinguish not just German from Pole, but European from non-European.

2018-12-12 10:35:56 UTC  

Yeah London's pretty terrible.

2018-12-12 10:41:59 UTC  

There's still a lot of interesting historical stuff to see there, but I really detest the feeling. Going around what is ostensibly the thriving capital of a European country just to see the grandeur of its past exploits and appreciate what it once was while having to systematically avoid witnessing its self-inflicted wounds is depressing. Visiting London is like visiting the grave of an erstwhile celebrated hero whose success bred a life so good he succumbed to suicidal apathy.

2018-12-12 10:42:19 UTC  

Good morning

2018-12-12 10:42:39 UTC  

I'd almost recommend people go just to get a feel for that emotion- it really helps to crystalize our thoughts about all of this.

2018-12-12 10:42:46 UTC  

@Isabella Locke-MT good morning!

2018-12-12 10:43:58 UTC  

Good morning IE

2018-12-12 10:44:25 UTC  

It is way too early for effort posts ophiuchus

2018-12-12 10:44:43 UTC  

It's finals week fam

2018-12-12 10:44:47 UTC  

We in effort posting mode

2018-12-12 10:44:57 UTC  

One more final and I'm done with my degree!

2018-12-12 10:45:08 UTC  

That's awesome! Congrats

2018-12-12 10:45:12 UTC  

What did you major in?

2018-12-12 10:45:35 UTC  

Thank you! Really looking forward to have a bit more time to spend on both myself and IE.

2018-12-12 10:45:36 UTC  

Finance

2018-12-12 10:49:40 UTC  

I'm about to go through the opposite, lol. When my boy is born in January I probably won't be on as much

2018-12-12 10:50:26 UTC  

Completely understandable though. Wish you much luck with your child!

2018-12-12 10:50:29 UTC  

Is this your first?

2018-12-12 10:50:38 UTC  

Yep.

2018-12-12 10:50:57 UTC  

Oh wow- how're you feeling?

2018-12-12 10:51:39 UTC  

Amused. He always starts wiggling right after I eat and I just had some breakfast so now I'm watching my stomach move like in the Alien movies

2018-12-12 10:52:05 UTC  

I was in Paris when I was like 12 and it was already Africa tier

2018-12-12 10:52:11 UTC  

@Isabella Locke-MT when are you due if you don't mind sharing?

2018-12-12 10:52:20 UTC  

Jan 31st

2018-12-12 10:52:28 UTC  

But I have a feeling he might be a little early

2018-12-12 10:52:30 UTC  

we'll see

2018-12-12 10:53:16 UTC  

You had breakfast at 3:50 AM?

2018-12-12 10:53:52 UTC  

My husband wakes up at 3 to get ready for work. Usually I'll eat a little something while he gets ready and then go back to sleep for 3-4 hours

2018-12-12 10:54:22 UTC  

I hope everything goes smoothly for you and the baby. I recall when my son was born. My wife was in labor for 23 hours 😫

2018-12-12 10:54:43 UTC  

First labors are usually pretty long

2018-12-12 10:54:53 UTC  

23 oof

2018-12-12 10:54:55 UTC  

But then your body gets the hang of it

2018-12-12 10:55:14 UTC  

My mom's first (me) was a c-section, and her second was only 4 hours

2018-12-12 10:55:19 UTC  

she got off easy

2018-12-12 10:55:49 UTC  

When you have a wife and kids, you want to avoid c-section as much as possible

2018-12-12 10:56:38 UTC  

iirc scheduling c-sections was very en vouge in the 90s

2018-12-12 10:56:53 UTC  

because it let doctors schedule when their patients would give birth

2018-12-12 10:56:54 UTC  

C-sections will put you out longer. I was under the assumption that once you had one you could not have another baby delivered naturally.