Message from @Virgil
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@Sam Southern - TN Bibi Netanyahu is the Prime Minister of Israel. He is not an American politician.
Why would Mark Dice tweet that about him?
Because he tweets and makes propaganda in a foreign language (English) to undermine our Republic
Which part are you not following
The part where he's trying to undermine our Republic. Outside of foreign aid I really don't see that for Bibi.
America's failure would be catastrophic for Israel.
ah yes, only just under 4 billion a year, barely a drop in the bucket
not to mention sending our soldiers to die and get maimed/ptsd in territorial wars for israel
Sure, it's an issue - but one that predates Netanyahu and expands much further into lobbying.
you may not like it, but for an Israeli, Bibi is pretty reactionary.
He's effectively an ethno-nationalist for his people.
having us fight his wars is undermining our republic whether you call it that or not
having us fund his nation is undermining our republic
having his people steal our military tech undermines our republic
he undermines our republic
Well, I wasn't really looking to get into an argument here, but many of these issues far predate Netanyahu - I absolutely agree they are concerns - two things I'd note.
a lot of these issues predate schumer
doesn't prevent marky from tweeting about it without remonstrations
that's not coherent to use as a point
Oh, okay then.
Israel simply takes advantage of the weak disposition that modern America already had, yes it's a bit immoral but how much can you really blame them? Particularly with their geopolitical position in the world, they have to rely on foreign powers for protection.
That being said, i'll admit that Israel has an absolutely terrible foreign policy when dealing with most countries.
Lol im not blaming them. But if mark is going to call out people for tweeting in foreign languages for the sake of propaganda, then why not also call out bibi for the same? Besides the obvious that he won’t challenge that particular hegemony, there’s no reason not to attack Bibi for exactly what he’s attacking Schumer for.
Because the right hates Schumer. It's a feasible target and a winnable victory. Mark Dice can safely attack an American politician with some amount of gusto without being defamed, losing his platform accusations of Anti-Semitism... Not so for Bibi
“Besides the obvious that he won’t challenge that particular hegemony”
My only point was that bibi is doing the same as Schumer ffs
Oh, I see.
I don't really see it as the same though. Bibi is a foreign leader - securing as much power and capital for his nation is his job.
Schumer should be representing his constituency and country. What Chuck is doing is worse.
Israel is getting pretty cozy with China.
Is bibi a foreign agent working to undermine the republic through the use of foreign language propaganda?
If so, it’s exactly what mark was calling out Schumer for.
"Is bibi a foreign agent working to undermine the republic through the use of foreign
language propaganda?"
No, he's trying to leverage it to his advantage. A weakened America would be disastrous for Israel.
Regardless, I feel like we are splitting hairs here.
We should try to remain pragmatic and focus on the possible and productive, instead of the unlikely unobtainable ideal.
The jq is a very complex high iq subject. I'm not sure Mark Dice is equipped to handle subject matter like that. Furthermore what would he have to gain from talking about Israel, if anything it will cost him.
Ah yes, it’s definitely not undermining us to fund the Israeli nation, to have them steal our military technology, and to have our people die in wars for them.
True enough, Sam.
Israel is a constant baseline for the MIC as well.
Ya know other than Afghanistan for decades.
