Hi everyone

The ultimate resource on planet Earth is human attention. Direct it. Rule.

We are obviously going to have to take some action ourselves. And business as usual is not really the ticket to success

Yeah I don't think any one would argue against that

Hey @V.Balboa - PA !

I'm not really sure what we are talking about to be honest. I just thought I'd chime in on here for a change

@Perihelion - CA I like that, succinct and true

@ThisIsChris doing great :)\

@Perihelion - CA ever heard of something called "the attention economy"? it's a similar idea

@Konrad - MD glad to see you here bro

@Konrad - MD yeah great to have you here

Thanks guys good to see ya

@NateDahl76 yeah isn't it funny how the IE people you hang out with most IRL rarely post on the server?

(general you, not you in particular)

Haha true indeed

Except for Asatru Artist in my case 😂

I'm not big on the online stuff I must admit

Anyway then I go to IRL things and people tell me they read all my posts and respond to them IRL, it's great

@NateDahl76 meeting @Asatru Artist - MD sounds pretty cool

👋

That'd probably be at the upcoming conference on January 12th if you are on the east coast

https://youtu.be/R_RwKee4N4c

I've been taking a break from Discord, taking a page from Jacobs book. ;)

Throwback

That was peak propoganda imo

@Asatru Artist - MD I think @Jacob is busy with finals

Will there be another annual IE vid kinda thing

mayb

Think so!

👀

Videos are awesome, eternally grateful for the guys responsible

@Asatru Artist - MD LMAO

Amazing how much its grown and changed in just the coarse of a year speaking myself,let alone more so in the last what,3?

How old is IE now?

915 members so far

I can't wait to hit 1000

@celticflame IE was founded in late 2016

Ok thanks! @Papa Pizzagate

Wow definitely growing then! @Brunswick

Let's talk about typical non dissident conservatives and what they find persuasive. In my experience, talking pretty openly about identarian views with friends and family I've found that the FACTS and LOGIC path has frequent hard limits on effectiveness. Many, if not most, people are not persuaded by pattern recognition and data alone, but rather rely on one or more sources of authority to dictate their views. I actually come from a sub culture in which debate is normalized and so was able to get down to the essential foundation of what established truth for many individuals. I summarize these alternative truth-sources as follows.
1. Instinctive social hierarchy . Many people feel what is right, wrong, truth and false. They do so instinctively. If you question this instinct enough it boils down to reliance on their social hierarchy. Friends, family, community leaders, personal connections. All ideas are passed through a filter which simulates their reactions. To convince these people: tune your message to their social network. Use language and arguments that their friends and family would find compelling.
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2. Trust and Emulate. Many people recognize accurately that they have a limited ability to process and make sense of the world. A logical solution to this problem is find people you trust and want to emulate. These then become your self selected "gatekeepers." All new ideas are matched against things said by these people. To convince these people: use the truism espoused by their selected gatekeepers. Phrase things in ways which don't directly contradict their gatekeepers. Suggest new gatekeepers or if necessary point out (gently) disagreements between their gatekeepers and favor one side over another using a third new source.
3. Religion. This is an alternative version of (2) but the gatekeeper is a religious system and doctrine. All ideas are matched against the symbols and essential teachings of the religion. If they pass muster, they can be considered, if not they are discarded. Ideas which resonate with core teachings are given extra weight. To convince these people: appeal to their symbolic system using their language and truism.
4. Practicality. These people have one simple and pretty sensible question: how will what you're saying change my life? If you don't have an answer, they don't care. If you do have an answer, then it better be immediately practical and make immediate sense. The benefits should be clear cut and self evident.
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