No it's like fighting your neighbor over mowing the lawn but the principle is HOA control

But they weren’t arguing over states rights

A secondary but significant issue was tarrifs

slavery was crucial to the economy.
it was actually designed that way

even plantation owners had to take out loans from the banks to maintain business

all the money went to a small group, as usual

So slavery is small picture

They definitely were arguing over states rights.

Big picture is slavery

Or states rights I meant

Basically yes

Ahh

true or false; states have/had a right to secede from the union?

For example Lincoln didn't free slaves in North under emancipation proclamation

^

And he wanted to send all slaves back to Africa

the north had slaves after the civil war lmao

can't wait for when the left call for the removal of the lincoln monument

Vast majority of southern soldiers didn't own slaves. For them it was self rule

@Perihelion - CA <5%

and majority of that % were of a non-white tribe

states *had the right to secede. They no longer do after the forceful reconstruction of the so-called union

Robert E Lee was against slavery but believed it would end for economic reasons anyway. He fought out of loyalty to his state over federal over reach.

Robert E Lee was against slavery

mfw the union is just like the EU <:sad:366743316475281408>

from trade to migration, it's the same plan

that being said, now we need to work together more than ever

broke: ending immigration between nations
woke: ending immigration between the States

Honestly we should be able to prevent Californians from leaving their state

Me included

*Californians not permitted entry without standard-issued IE membership card*

@Perihelion - CA no we shouldn't

pro-immigration cuck

I want to leave this place

Can't believe I ever put my faith in Trump.

So do I but id understand if they didn't let me.

California's ruined Oregon and Washington and soon will torpedo Idaho

don't worry @ExternalPepsi @Perihelion - CA, we'll have the Above-ground Railroad for y'all

we can smuggle the good cali natives out

Unfortunately freedom of movement has been settled law for 200 years

@Goose can you source that?