Message from @Goose
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But the intention was slavery?
Slavery was a grave error for moral, economic, and memetic reasons. But it would have been better to preserve Constitution.
The reason it was fought was over slavery, the consequences wrote the definition of states rights?
No it's like fighting your neighbor over mowing the lawn but the principle is HOA control
But they weren’t arguing over states rights
A secondary but significant issue was tarrifs
slavery was crucial to the economy.
it was actually designed that way
even plantation owners had to take out loans from the banks to maintain business
all the money went to a small group, as usual
So slavery is small picture
They definitely were arguing over states rights.
Big picture is slavery
Or states rights I meant
Basically yes
Ahh
true or false; states have/had a right to secede from the union?
For example Lincoln didn't free slaves in North under emancipation proclamation
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And he wanted to send all slaves back to Africa
the north had slaves after the civil war lmao
Vast majority of southern soldiers didn't own slaves. For them it was self rule
@Perihelion - CA <5%
and majority of that % were of a non-white tribe
states *had the right to secede. They no longer do after the forceful reconstruction of the so-called union
Robert E Lee was against slavery but believed it would end for economic reasons anyway. He fought out of loyalty to his state over federal over reach.
Robert E Lee was against slavery
mfw the union is just like the EU <:sad:366743316475281408>
from trade to migration, it's the same plan
that being said, now we need to work together more than ever
broke: ending immigration between nations
woke: ending immigration between the States
Honestly we should be able to prevent Californians from leaving their state
Me included
*Californians not permitted entry without standard-issued IE membership card*
@Perihelion - CA no we shouldn't
pro-immigration cuck
I want to leave this place
Can't believe I ever put my faith in Trump.
So do I but id understand if they didn't let me.
California's ruined Oregon and Washington and soon will torpedo Idaho
don't worry @ExternalPepsi @Perihelion - CA, we'll have the Above-ground Railroad for y'all