I just had a dream this past night that I was with some other people and we were amid some kind of harmful sleeping gas and lying down to sleep, but then at one point I said, this isn't right, and stood up and called 911 in the dream and started taking steps to survive. it was a weird dream but it made me realize I have a survival urge.

@Jonaltright I agree the situation is bleak, but it was also bleak at many points throughout European history. Somehow we found a way to not get annihilated by Muslims at many points in history, not all starve, not all die from and rebuild after the Black Plague, etc.

@Jonaltright well populations are going to decline and in all honesty they're going to need to

With the onset of automation there are going to be less and less jobs to support the people

@apronandlace I agree but your referring to those who did survive. Not the many who could barely feed themselves or who were murdered, or had the same fate befall their offspring. The winners survived, and at no time had access to birth control, doom and gloom statistics on birth rates, self hating media/media indoctrination of their family, etc etc. I'm arguing that the situation we are in is uniquely bad, and where it is going it is worse.

The only way to stop this would be complete automation and 100% governmental support.

Even then it would be impossible, as demonstrated by the mice Utopia experiments

And I agree that populations need to decline. But people looking at this and not feeling safe to have kids are not necessarily being too fiscally conservative or not brave enough

Populations go up and down all the time, its nothing unique, and frankly I don't buy in to the hype that we're below replacement levels

Species and sub species go extinct, become endangered all the time too

>we need an #ecology channel.

@Jonaltright they're just being practical for the most part. I do concur that a big reason why our people are not having as many children is the stigma it now has thanks to the yiddle-diddles

But again, with lower salaries, higher student loan debts, higher costs of living, theres a reason millennials arent having as many children

I want to have kids before 30 tbh, but given rent and student loans, I may have to hold off until that is paid off

I agree on the stigma and yiddle diddles lol. . But as far as conservative and right wing people who would like kids but don't, that's not some moral failing. It's reasonable. Sauron's forces have broken into Gondor. In real life, Frodo doesn't make it to mount Doom. I don't even think Gandalf is like "We need to make babies!"

Anecdotally, my grandma was one of 12 siblings and somehow things worked out.

Again, I'm sure whites will make it in some form. But lots of people are thinking, like me, "I don't think it will be me".

Go full Nike, "just do it" and have 12 huwhite babby.

I'm not saying it's all lost. I'm saying lots of people feel as if it is statistically a low shot for THEM. Which, statistically speaking, that is accurate

I made the mistake of waiting and now I have no children, and am 50 yo

Don't make my mistake (for those that don't already have kids).

OK

I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life, bro.

It was just a conversation.

Sorry that happened to you, for what it's worth, I have no idea who the hell you are : )

Of course brother. I do feel strongly on the subject, no offense taken. I have enough existential dread, can't imagine trading that for fear for my offspring. Don't mind me lol

Cool.

I'm strongly against not having kids, especially for young whites of good character. It's more rewarding and whitepilling than anything else. It will also shift your mind into a gear you'd otherwise not have achieved. Even if you think you "can't hack it" I can tell you from experience that you can.

If your choice is a "moral" one, you've self-selected out of the gene pool and have played right into the marketing of anti-white globalist order. As bad as any cat-lady or incel.

@Virgil I don't know if countries like Poland have as strict of borders as we think

Sure, it's difficult to immigrate from a non-EU country, but, once you get into, say, Germany, there's really nothing stopping you from waltzing on into Poland.

It's not really an issue now, but could be one if Eastern Europe gets more economically developed.

The meme that Poland is a perfect white ethnostate isn’t true

In that there are cracks

@Louis Loire - NY Where's the lie, though? This isn't me being "blackpilled" or whatever, Schengen countries have a literal open borders policy with each other. This is a fact.

https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1081089419728306176

AfD not affected while massive amounts of compromising info recovered on all other parties

It's Russia!

apparently a bunch of politicians are getting DMed about their sexual deviancies already

Children are not something you need to, necessarily, plan for. You adapt and overcome the obstacles that children bring to the table as they come. When you see that newborn baby’s face spring forth from that magical baby maker, something clicks in your head as a new father. You just do better and subsequently things improve. Not everyone has this instinct, but I believe our people do more than others.

@Sam Southern - TN just DMd my avtistic German Neo Monarchist buddy about this. We will see.

All other races of people just **** and a byproduct of that is higher birth rates for them. I’m not saying just **** but I think sometimes as white people we analyze the situation too much and underestimate our ability to adapt and overcome any obstacle life throws at us.

@Sam Anderson pls gibs updates if/when he has any. it's a ridiculous amount of information

most of it is just normal doxxy stuff, names and addresses