Message from @Eugene of Savoy

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2019-01-09 03:53:27 UTC  

I mean is anyone with power actually worthy in any sense other than having it? But otherwise I do very much agree. Building support networks and skills and families and communities is good for any future, mundane or outlandish.

2019-01-09 03:54:59 UTC  

@Eugene of Savoy Look at what the left has done with power, compared to the right.

2019-01-09 03:55:09 UTC  

oops i meant to tag @Wood-Ape - OK/MN

2019-01-09 03:55:40 UTC  

It’s probably going to be a bumpy few decades and it’s going to be over a span of multiple generations. As painful as it is to be patient during this, the upside is the impact you can make in the next 50 years.

2019-01-09 03:55:45 UTC  

They do a better job of uniting identitarians I believe

2019-01-09 03:56:39 UTC  

I agree that the arch of history is long

2019-01-09 03:57:32 UTC  

Whether that’s building a large family, building the network, setting an example for friends, family and offspring, starting a business or saving money for your offspring, you have a lot of years to build and contribute. Don’t focus so much on the day to day noise

2019-01-09 03:57:57 UTC  

We could accelerate the process and use their weight against them so to speak

2019-01-09 03:58:27 UTC  

That's how we got Bolsonero

2019-01-09 03:58:38 UTC  

The left uses power effectively. "Worthy" has moral implications that doesn't seem applicable

2019-01-09 03:58:44 UTC  

"accelerate the process" I'm always weary of supposed shortcuts, there's always hidden costs

2019-01-09 03:59:04 UTC  

"Effectiveness", rather, seems more appropriate

2019-01-09 03:59:14 UTC  

Look at the neo-Cons, a small conglomeration of ex-marxist Jews (mostly)... seeded the entire right wing for many many decades, forever changing us policy . Neocons wield power effectively. The left absolutely has wielded power effectively. They aren't worthy recipients of power, but they are effective and worthy of wielding it - because they wield it well. We need to learn how to do that.

2019-01-09 03:59:34 UTC  

I mean worthy in a practical sense, not a moral sense.

2019-01-09 03:59:40 UTC  

Looks like folks are talking smack about us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N22Da8beQZo

2019-01-09 04:00:35 UTC  

Agreed 100%. Skill and capacity and resources are what is needed for that, though. NrX have quasi-religious thinking in many respects (monarchy fetishism being one), the worthiness quip being another

2019-01-09 04:01:19 UTC  

@apronandlace blessed image

2019-01-09 04:01:20 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN I happen to agree with much of it, though your assessment isn't wrong.

2019-01-09 04:01:24 UTC  

Ah, okay. I hear what you're saying. I'd select a clearer word.

2019-01-09 04:02:16 UTC  

When Trump goes down there will be an opportunity for one of us to step up. I don't thing that is a crazy concept

2019-01-09 04:02:39 UTC  

I am a poseur though. Never read Moldbug.

2019-01-09 04:04:27 UTC  

The NrX "worthiness" concept may be interpreted as the Chinese "Mandate of Heaven." You lose it when you no longer have it, you get it when you do.

2019-01-09 04:04:43 UTC  

2019-01-09 04:04:58 UTC  

🔄

2019-01-09 04:05:18 UTC  

Not exactly.

2019-01-09 04:05:29 UTC  

But I see why you would think so.

2019-01-09 04:05:35 UTC  

It's hard for me to articulate.

2019-01-09 04:05:51 UTC  

Mandate of Heaven or spirit of the times?

2019-01-09 04:06:10 UTC  

Just seems to be who has their hands on the gold and iron, tbh. Gotta get hearts before that.

2019-01-09 04:25:48 UTC  

@Nemets very good, thank you for sharing. Interesting spiritual twist there at the end of it.

2019-01-09 04:28:42 UTC  

The worthiness thing can be interpreted in a divine right to rule manner but the NRx guys usually promote it in more practical terms

2019-01-09 04:30:45 UTC  

I just started listening to Devon Stack/Black Pilled. It's decent content.

2019-01-09 04:30:51 UTC  

Bro we aristocracy gang now?

2019-01-09 04:31:04 UTC  

Pro-aristocracy gang rise up

2019-01-09 04:31:10 UTC  

Cornination ceremony when?

2019-01-09 04:31:32 UTC  

Evola Society Rise Up

2019-01-09 04:31:39 UTC  

@Rick this tbh. He's pretty good tbh.

2019-01-09 04:32:03 UTC  

Didn't really listen to too much of his content in the past but got into it the other day while at work.

2019-01-09 04:32:27 UTC  

@Reinhard Wolff Yes I understand "Become worthy" enough as "have skills, connections and resources to utilize opportunities." I suppose I quibble over the moralistic phrasing or my misinterpretation thereof.

2019-01-09 04:33:20 UTC  

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN is it cold up there?