Message from @Doc

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2020-11-12 16:07:35 UTC  

Revolt

2020-11-12 16:07:38 UTC  

😄

2020-11-12 16:07:49 UTC  

Not even kidding that is revolt worthy

2020-11-12 16:08:21 UTC  

for an american. Remember, your legal system is based on the idea of free men.

2020-11-12 16:08:31 UTC  

Ours is not.

2020-11-12 16:08:41 UTC  

Ours is a hand down from the feudal lords of yesteryear.

2020-11-12 16:08:49 UTC  

I mean that I'd support anyone anywhere revolting over that issue

2020-11-12 16:09:16 UTC  

I appreciate your support, but Europeans are still in slave mentality on this issue.

2020-11-12 16:09:27 UTC  

The use of force belongs to the Duke alone.

2020-11-12 16:09:39 UTC  

The minions are to call for the magistrate to come, only.

2020-11-12 16:09:57 UTC  

This is why they view americans as "crazy".

2020-11-12 16:10:46 UTC  

(and yes, this is relevant to mr. Rittenhouse. Its the most fundamental right of americanism. To take responsibility and defend yourself, rather than calling for the Duke`s men.)

2020-11-12 16:12:13 UTC  

Everyone is aloud to voice/put forward their say/comment which would elicit some kind of fair response, but when you join a channel with a name like "Trump4jail", I would think you wanting something more... 😜

2020-11-12 16:13:39 UTC  

Anyway, back to the practical, everyone who has a gun should (almost say _must_) read books like branca's or ayoob's

2020-11-12 16:13:48 UTC  

I agree!

2020-11-12 16:14:37 UTC  

Gangbangers included!

2020-11-12 16:15:07 UTC  

(jk, the system can eat them)

2020-11-12 16:17:06 UTC  

what you should look out for in america is the "duty to withdraw"

2020-11-12 16:17:37 UTC  

that is what is pushed into the realm of impossibility here.

2020-11-12 16:18:23 UTC  

You can find yourself obligated to climb out of your bathroom window and get stuck half way, to avoid the conflict. Your duty to protect the rapist from harm is in the land of ridiculous.

2020-11-12 16:19:29 UTC  

I do believe some of your states already has this duty?

2020-11-12 16:22:19 UTC  

Duty to retreat yea

2020-11-12 16:22:33 UTC  

But not in your house

2020-11-12 16:22:52 UTC  

Most states exempt your house and some other special places

2020-11-12 16:23:32 UTC  

I think Branca highlights Ohio as bring unfavorable regarding this standard

2020-11-12 16:24:30 UTC  

And/or other issues in Ohio regarding burden of proof

2020-11-12 16:24:50 UTC  

Which is surprising to most people because their gun laws are relatively lax

2020-11-12 16:25:56 UTC  

But yea it feels like if you study the details of most government systems (such as the justice system wrt self defense) you get red pilled and jaded very quickly

2020-11-12 16:26:03 UTC  

Not just this sort of thing

2020-11-12 16:26:25 UTC  

Just the amount of people who don't get good representation and just get destroyed

2020-11-12 16:26:44 UTC  

This is what BLM should really be complaining about

2020-11-12 16:27:08 UTC  

It is a kind of tyranny of the majority

2020-11-12 16:27:16 UTC  

Most people never go through the system

2020-11-12 16:27:33 UTC  

Or they do and hate it with a passion but somehow assume it was only bad for them

2020-11-12 16:27:42 UTC  

And still trust in the system as a whole

2020-11-12 16:28:03 UTC  

And don't get me wrong, I appreciate that trust, because it keeps the world civil!

2020-11-12 16:28:18 UTC  

But the few people who go through it and get screwed, don't make the news

2020-11-12 16:28:22 UTC  

They get no coverage

2020-11-12 16:28:54 UTC  

No investigative reporting

2020-11-12 16:28:58 UTC  

No one else knows

2020-11-12 16:29:29 UTC  

So you can get an egregious situation where a state is routinely prosecuting people for "not retreating"