Message from @Maw

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2020-11-26 22:07:46 UTC  

Thanksgiving is canceled due to thanksgiving.

2020-11-26 22:08:37 UTC  

Oh, you absolutely know the twitter lefty squad will try to cancel Christmas and call it xmas. They've been trying that for years.

2020-11-26 22:08:37 UTC  

Ironically this time, it wasn't for being a "racist" holiday

2020-11-26 22:10:35 UTC  

Native Americans do NOT have a legitimate concern. You can only do so much for people. No good deed goes unpunished, I always say. Smh.

2020-11-26 22:10:52 UTC  

Anyone's thoughts on the recent SCOTUS ruling for keeping religious institutions open?

2020-11-26 22:11:35 UTC  

I like the 'If liquor stores' argument. Puts a fine point on it.

2020-11-26 22:12:56 UTC  

Then again, 'if liquor stores' means pretty much anything else, imo. Nonessential.

2020-11-26 22:13:18 UTC  

Places of worship are seen as essential by many.

2020-11-26 22:13:44 UTC  

Indeed. Much more so than booze, to my reckoning.

2020-11-26 22:14:25 UTC  

That’s because religion is protected in the constitution..

2020-11-26 22:14:35 UTC  

That and there are clauses specifically prohibiting the restriction of religious freedoms.

2020-11-26 22:15:10 UTC  

Plus it's a freedom of worship issue. Just no place for government banning it. They aren't infants and it's not frivolous, like Burning Man.

2020-11-26 22:15:17 UTC  

And as I always say: If you want to change it, do it the right way.

2020-11-26 22:15:18 UTC  

Yes. What Maw said.

2020-11-26 22:15:32 UTC  

Again, what Maw said.

2020-11-26 22:16:37 UTC  

Same goes for Unthanksgiving.

2020-11-26 22:16:57 UTC  

It's funny... The origin of the Christmas holiday and most of its traditions are not Christian at all. When Constantine converted the Roman Empire to Christianity in the 4th century, he worked with the Church to make Christianity palatable to the Roman Pagans. Part of that effort was to assimilate many of the Pagan traditions and rituals into the Christian tradition. Prior to then, most believed Christ was born in the spring given the details in the story - not in the middle of winter. As part of the assimilation the Pagan Solstice /Yuletide celebration where families gathered, feasted, exchanged gifts, decorated trees was transformed into Christmas.

2020-11-26 22:17:53 UTC  

So, I chuckle just a little when people get tweaked about taking Christ out of Christmas....

2020-11-26 22:18:11 UTC  

Gotta ritualize somehow. That was just as good as any other way. Still celebration of Christianity to Christians, which I am not.

2020-11-26 22:18:14 UTC  

Except they do it for completely different reasons than you've otherwise outlined.

2020-11-26 22:18:35 UTC  

That and it's become part of the faith.

2020-11-26 22:18:40 UTC  

Yup

2020-11-26 22:19:13 UTC  

I'm a Meist tho.

2020-11-26 22:19:23 UTC  

I'm a theist.

2020-11-26 22:19:29 UTC  

I grew up in Christian schools.

2020-11-26 22:19:38 UTC  

I just consider myself a theist.

2020-11-26 22:19:49 UTC  

Grew up Christian. Didn't take.

2020-11-26 22:20:21 UTC  

As a Christian...Christmas is a joke to me. It’s completely blasphemous

2020-11-26 22:20:51 UTC  

The church has only officially recognized the worship aspect of celebrating Christ's Mass. The rest of it all predates Christianity. Probably even the commercialization. 😉

2020-11-26 22:21:04 UTC  

Anything other than precisely what a person follows is blasphemous.

2020-11-26 22:21:05 UTC  

Grew up christian, started investigating. That did its job.

2020-11-26 22:21:20 UTC  

Lol same @Doc

2020-11-26 22:21:41 UTC  

Opposite happened to me.

2020-11-26 22:21:45 UTC  

I am a lapsed Catholic... Just couldn't get over the child sex abuse scandal.

2020-11-26 22:22:17 UTC  

@thebrodys accidents happen

2020-11-26 22:22:21 UTC  

no worries

2020-11-26 22:22:29 UTC  

This is getting off topic for the room

2020-11-26 22:22:35 UTC  

indeed

2020-11-26 22:22:37 UTC  

For sure.

2020-11-26 22:22:55 UTC  

but its thanksgiving now.

2020-11-26 22:22:58 UTC  

If they didn't put so much emphasis in the Catholic structure as a component of salvation, they would have done themselves a favor in a modern context, yes. @TaLoN132