Lmfao

Hilary is relevant...if your entire argument is 'Election fraud cuz 'The Left'.

We are way past "fraud because the left"

I agree. That's why the current topic is confusing.

The talking point has gone from "Fraud never happened" to "Ok it happened but no widespread fraud" to "There are no bases"

You don't need widespread fraud to flip an election.

Not my talking point. I want this whole thing under a microscope. The war on reality has gone too far. These people need to be called to account for it.

Perhaps not, but the alleged way is a massive fraud.

He could be as corrupt as the rest of them, I honestly don’t know. It probably doesn’t matter anymore anyway. The great experiment is over, and the bad guys will eventually win. Propaganda has created a citizenry that is constantly at each other‘s throat‘s and unable to sit down their swords in verbal and physical battle with their neighbors.  I don’t understand how both sides can believe such heinous things about the other side but refuse to consider that the puppet masters are the truly evil. I’m sure you all are laughing at my tinfoil tiara. Wondering if I’m Alex Jones long-lost mother/aunt. Five years ago I would’ve been you. Now I’m just hoping to make it to CA to see my grandson before the big reset has us shooting at each other in the streets. There will be no winners in this, but these two make me hope for the truth to finally come out. ✌🏼

You might want to consider the possibility that the truth is already out.

You should probably talk to someone. This does not seem healthy

If you don’t understand what lead up to the need for massive fraud in this election, you’ll never get your head around the reality of what those in DC are Moving mountains to hide. They are scared to death of Donald Trump. And that fear is directly related to what Hillary Clinton did while she was Secretary of State. That is the core of what is happening right now.

Scared that he'll do something that he wasn't able to do in the last 4 years?

And they will all rally around and do everything in their power to ensure that there is a fall guy, a successful cover-up, and their world will keep turning. The Mitch McConnell’s and Nancy Pelosi’s will continue to rein like kings and queens while we peasants fight amongst ourselves. And pretend that the past doesn’t matter.

No, "those in DC" are not scared of trump. He's been a fairly inept president considering he had both senate and house for 2 years and has mostly ruled by executive orders.

And Donald Trump is the savior from all this. That's what you're saying?

The thing is that it is much easier to ruin a thing than build it up. And Trump has been ruining things and not building

@Olle To be fair, he got tax rewards for wealthy people accomplished in those 2 years.

True, but that was in the nick of time...

It's almost like that was the only real agenda from the campaign promises. Almost.

@Olle thank you for showing me once, more that we in fact do have the government we deserve.

True, the government is as good or bad as people are willing to invest in it. If people distance themselves from the government and does not involve themself into the process we'll get a government that disregards the common people.

The problem is that most people does not seem to understand that the government must deal with conflicting interests. Group A has a valid claim that is in conflict with the valid claim of group B. How do we solve that? We do that by rules and regulations, and always then someone suggests "getting rid of all redtape" it's most often a very ignorant person that does not understand the issue at hand. And that is what trump has done, in a very tonedeath manner he's slashing regulation that is put there for a reason over time.

@Olle, you just advanced to level 5!

Voters who sat out in 2016 re-engaged in 2020. They endured the consequences of their passivity for 4 years and stepped up this time.

But this, as well as the Hillary thing, is wayyyy out of scope for the discussion at hand.

If nothing else, 2016 is evidence that the deep state sucks at what they do and we shouldn't be all that worried. Horribly failed coup imo.

They are both very competent and really crappy at the same time.

Yes, it really depends on what cognitive dissonance affords on a case by case basis, I have found.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/victor-joecks/victor-joecks-signature-verification-is-a-joke-heres-how-i-beat-the-system-2072456/

@leftingfighter33, you just advanced to level 8!

No, the alledged way is targeted fraud in key counties in swing states.

@leftingfighter33 I've seen that story previously

We are still talking about a couple of 100s people involved,that is massive

conspiracy to create a gigantic mess.

What experience is required to be a poll watcher?

@Zuluzeit That is what is REALLY scary. Not even is there a Deep State, but it is highly incompetent at everything!

@busillis usually dyslectic lifeguards

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/poll-watcher-qualifications.aspx

The thing is that if you look at other us elections the levels of voter fraud is very very small. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-53353404

So someone would need to set up an entire new organisation for this and perpetrate this without no one spilling the beans.