Message from @fallen angel

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2017-07-14 07:23:47 UTC  

They should be at least

2017-07-14 07:24:02 UTC  

>inb4 norks nuke us all

2017-07-14 07:24:20 UTC  

North korea alone isn't a threat.

2017-07-14 07:24:38 UTC  

They'll just fuck up the pacific ocean life a bit and level a few east asian cities.

2017-07-14 07:24:57 UTC  

As it stands basically yeah

2017-07-14 07:25:01 UTC  

Their ICBM tech is way behind

2017-07-14 07:25:43 UTC  

i've always held that north korea should either be invaded or we should drop the sanctions.
If you get millions of cheap cars and action movies into north korea the government will either liberalise or collaspe.

2017-07-14 07:25:51 UTC  

kek

2017-07-14 07:26:09 UTC  

I feel like they're more of a nuisance than a proper threat but they are a pretty annoying nuisance

2017-07-14 07:26:53 UTC  

the issue is that if they get enough tech they might drag someone else down as they drown

2017-07-14 07:27:08 UTC  

That is true, SK and japan come to mind

2017-07-14 07:27:24 UTC  

norks and sorks

2017-07-14 07:27:44 UTC  

Yes, but a nuke on Anchorage or Guam would be annoying.
And as much as we joke, nuking California would be a tragedy of ill comparison.

2017-07-14 07:27:54 UTC  

Seoul will be leveled by conventional arms.

2017-07-14 07:28:05 UTC  

Japan cannot be nuked, their missile defense system is too good

2017-07-14 07:28:19 UTC  

Seoul is a pretty shit place, I wouldn't mind seeing it go

2017-07-14 07:28:23 UTC  

but a nuke going off in the sea of japan would also be shitty.

2017-07-14 07:28:41 UTC  

>bakana not the third time

2017-07-14 07:28:47 UTC  

You say that but if seoul is gone then what are we gonna do with all these communistic, poor, uneducated north korean peasants.

2017-07-14 07:29:07 UTC  

Seoul is insanely overpopulated though

2017-07-14 07:29:16 UTC  

Dumping them in there wouldn't really be any better

2017-07-14 07:29:23 UTC  

i sure as shit don't want to take 1 million north korean immigrants (though i'd probably take them over the somalis any day of the week).

2017-07-14 07:29:43 UTC  

and if South Korea doesn't have the economy to sustain and rehabilitate and integrate them you're gonna have a refugee crisis

2017-07-14 07:29:47 UTC  

Norks would probably be insanely docile and submissive, for the first 2 generations at least

2017-07-14 07:30:09 UTC  

But I guess we do need seoul so that the sorks can actually do something about what kim jong un and co left behind

2017-07-14 07:30:36 UTC  

perhaps but they're also illiterate, uneducated and the escapees are often overwhelmed by our societies.

2017-07-14 07:31:03 UTC  

And should the North Koreans vote in the unified korean elecitons?
They're barely literate and have been indoctrinated into communism their entire life.

2017-07-14 07:31:09 UTC  

yeah they haven't been exposed to the sensory overwhelm of modern society

2017-07-14 07:31:21 UTC  

it'll be a mess.

2017-07-14 07:31:36 UTC  

which is why they shouldn't have been embargoed and left to hermit kingdom this long but we have what we got.

2017-07-14 07:33:01 UTC  

Truly another victory for communism

2017-07-14 07:33:23 UTC  

Man, imagine if Marx was shot and killed before he could write the load of shit that is the Communist Manifesto

2017-07-14 07:33:53 UTC  

The world would be an infinitely better place tbqh

2017-07-14 07:34:20 UTC  

Something else would have taken it's place.
Hopefully from a less hateful and spite filled man but the ideas were already there, someone just needed to make up a bullshit formal framework

2017-07-14 07:35:18 UTC  

The thing is that marxist school of thought is ok as a political analysis tool, it's just that marx himself was a fucking idiot who couldn't even use his own ideas to create something decent

2017-07-14 07:35:36 UTC  

The problem is that he's overly reliant on his mediocre analysis system

2017-07-14 07:35:48 UTC  

He treats people as objects rather than actual human beings

2017-07-14 07:35:58 UTC  

that's not how it fucking works unfortunately

2017-07-14 07:36:29 UTC  

He started with the end result and invented an actually interesting tool to get there.
The Dialectic and his ideas of history are interesting and useful in interpretation, but unfortunately they're forever intertwined with "why don't we kill everyone who runs the country and then let the country run everything and then utopia"

2017-07-14 07:36:41 UTC  

Yep

2017-07-14 07:36:49 UTC  

He wrote the Manifesto before Das Kapital