Message from @Nico The Great - CA

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2019-01-11 06:34:09 UTC  

wonder what they're up to now

2019-01-11 06:38:58 UTC  

Anyone happen to read this/know if it's any good?

2019-01-11 06:40:05 UTC  

@Jason - CT No, but it sounds interesting. Clearly pro nationstate/anti-globalist. Don't know if you'll find anything new in there, or if it's old news

2019-01-11 06:40:44 UTC  

It's by an Israeli political writer

2019-01-11 06:41:29 UTC  

From the introduction, the guy is framing it as a "nationalism v. imperialism" argument which... is already a bad way to frame things

2019-01-11 06:41:43 UTC  

but hey, you could just find a site to download the book without paying for it

2019-01-11 06:41:45 UTC  

is it?

2019-01-11 06:41:56 UTC  

most people don't like imperialism

2019-01-11 06:42:01 UTC  

@Jason - CT It could help you provide arguments against globalisation from an israeli perspective. Help you to argue with zionists/civnats i mean

2019-01-11 06:42:07 UTC  

makes us sound like good guys

2019-01-11 06:42:08 UTC  

"imperialism" as people tend to use it doesn't happen very often these days

2019-01-11 06:42:34 UTC  

it's not like American gunboats are sailing down the Amazon to get better deals on... whatever

2019-01-11 06:43:01 UTC  

@Salo Saloson True, we have this "quiet" takeover where all the nations are merging together

2019-01-11 06:43:31 UTC  

Peaceful takeovers are always more effective than violent ones

2019-01-11 06:43:33 UTC  

the mass homogenization of everything is quite a bit different from the British Empire (not that either was _good_ but one is at least preferable)

2019-01-11 06:45:06 UTC  

esp. the way that guy uses it, it makes the imperialism angle weirder, because he's arguing in favor of national sovereignty

2019-01-11 06:45:44 UTC  

but it isn't a sovereignty question, not really, it's a question of does your nation have a soul and should it be allowed to keep whatever soul it's got

2019-01-11 06:46:40 UTC  

isn't it accurate to say that imperialism is generally in opposition to nationalism, though?

2019-01-11 06:47:07 UTC  

if you're the guy getting imperialized, sure
but for the imperializer it's their nationalism too

2019-01-11 06:47:42 UTC  

@Jacob I get where you're coming from, so...maybe. BUt like salosaloson says, it's not in opposition to the nation LEADING the empire

2019-01-11 06:47:54 UTC  

not necessarily anyway

2019-01-11 06:50:32 UTC  

I also think it's kind of silly to look at Brexit and say, "UK went nationalist, it's all over!"
ignoring the huge pro-EU sentiment in the country

2019-01-11 06:50:53 UTC  

same with Trump's election, wherein everyone goes, "America's going FULL NATIONALIST"
yeah. full _civic_ nationalist

2019-01-11 06:59:59 UTC  

I guess it's not necessarily in opposition to the nationalism of the imperializing country

2019-01-11 07:00:20 UTC  

A good nationalist should offer reciprocity, though

2019-01-11 08:21:59 UTC  

Reading some articles saying there are rumors RBG may step down very soon

2019-01-11 08:25:56 UTC  

eh

2019-01-11 08:26:03 UTC  

there's always rumors

2019-01-11 08:26:12 UTC  

not saying it won't happen, though

2019-01-11 13:38:57 UTC  

@Salo Saloson England would have gone full nationalist if Nigel had decided to become a P.M... but he didn't

2019-01-11 13:44:14 UTC  

The ability of English people to be cucked stuns me.

2019-01-11 13:44:47 UTC  

Some British Sailors I was chillin with said they were not English but Welsh. Like okay how tf is Gupta or Muhammad gonna be English then?

2019-01-11 14:11:33 UTC  

On a related note, when I was in England I noticed that the Gupta's and Mohammeds spoke English in an even more pretentious and condescending way than the native British.

2019-01-11 14:19:54 UTC  

Yeah I noticed that too

2019-01-11 14:20:14 UTC  

Spoke extra cowboy when I talked to them out of spite

2019-01-11 15:12:46 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo Nigel seems like he was threatened, or he was controlled op all along

2019-01-11 15:13:12 UTC  

Totally abandoned the cause after they won Brexit

2019-01-11 15:44:22 UTC  

@Sam Anderson Lol, I did the same thing. I spoke to prople with a bit of a West Virginia twang that I picked up.

2019-01-11 15:54:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/533312791386390529/image0.jpg

2019-01-11 15:55:59 UTC  

I don't want to be winning anymore Mr Trump