Message from @Dio

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2021-01-03 17:10:16 UTC  

mass privatization

2021-01-03 17:11:11 UTC  

definitely wasn’t freedom of religion lmfao

2021-01-03 17:11:38 UTC  

nazi germany was down religious freedoms throat as hard as the bolsheviks

2021-01-03 17:16:07 UTC  

Unified German speaking peoples, especially through reclamation of territory.

Defied the treaty. Justifiably.
Took more land. Only Germans can be citizens, though there was a whole sequence of determining who was German. They had laws for foreigners.
Not sure about 6 or 7, the part about expulsion. But the government did create programs for work in exchange for bonds. It worked fairly well. Unsure about 8.
Citizens, Germans, had equal rights. 12 is specifically concerning world War 1. Though after the inflation the profits were worthless.
The government controlled public industries.
Unsure of 14-19. The law was reformed.
21 don't know if sport was a law but it became much more widespread.
22. I don't know if the army was changed.
23 was accomplished.
24 was technically accomplished but there weren't any such foreigners in Germany anyway.
25 was accomplished.

2021-01-03 17:16:26 UTC  

Not 100 percent success, not a failure that was just ignored.

2021-01-03 17:21:37 UTC  

I fail to see how 1930s germany is current happenings

2021-01-03 17:23:45 UTC  

most of the points are generic and in line with a party that wants to racially aggrandize support and authority, meaningless to me. what i am talking about are the obvious points where the nsdap is required to vanguard populist economic policies - you know the very points feder helped draft to get votes (he helped draft 15 more points which hitler said no to). The very points that were used to scapegoat antipodal economic activities to the volk (usury, private concentration of profit and capital, high taxes, rural land monopolism) never even went under consideration.

2021-01-03 17:24:24 UTC  

because feder made junckers and industrialists nervous, and as soon as his rhetoric got them their power he was thrown under the bus in ‘33

2021-01-03 17:24:41 UTC  

That's not relevant to whether they were carried out or not. I didn't ask for. Contextual opinions.

2021-01-03 17:25:03 UTC  

the bulk of the national socialists party’s goals were not met or aimed for

2021-01-03 17:25:16 UTC  

Most were met.

2021-01-03 17:25:19 UTC  

unless the only point of the party is to run a ponzi republic of white people

2021-01-03 17:25:25 UTC  

then i guess it was met

2021-01-03 17:25:45 UTC  

The point of the party was to return Germany to a prior state.

2021-01-03 17:26:05 UTC  

it most certainly wasn’t

2021-01-03 17:26:10 UTC  

they weren’t reactionaries

2021-01-03 17:26:30 UTC  

Returning to a prior state doesn't need to be a reaction.

2021-01-03 17:26:40 UTC  

that’s quite literally all there is

2021-01-03 17:26:54 UTC  

you gonna return it to the kaiser

2021-01-03 17:26:58 UTC  

or the munich communists

2021-01-03 17:27:14 UTC  

They wanted to undo the treaty, reclaim territory, and establish an explicitly German identity.

2021-01-03 17:27:29 UTC  

this isn’t status quo ante by many measure

2021-01-03 17:27:38 UTC  

And?

2021-01-03 17:28:14 UTC  

It's not an all or nothing gamble.

2021-01-03 17:28:26 UTC  

Salvage what you can of what Germany was, then you move on.

2021-01-03 17:29:03 UTC  

the point is they were not only not salvaging they were actively working against the interests of ‘salvage and move on’

2021-01-03 17:29:38 UTC  

feder was the guy who said salvage and move on

2021-01-03 17:29:43 UTC  

look at what happened to him

2021-01-03 17:29:54 UTC  

top party member banished to studies and undersecretary work

2021-01-03 17:30:40 UTC  

They reclaimed territory, their identity, and their economy. I don't care why or through what means. That was the intent and it was accomplished.

2021-01-03 17:31:52 UTC  

they reclaimed territory momentarily, they distorted the various cultural artifacts that made up germany and their economy was a powerhouse.... if you just look at heavy industry for the military

2021-01-03 17:32:25 UTC  

truth is most germans didn’t stop rationing clothes or food

2021-01-03 17:32:41 UTC  

plenty lived on site during the public works projects

2021-01-03 17:32:59 UTC  

undesirables there under the compelling of a barrel

2021-01-03 17:33:56 UTC  

Momentarily isn't relevant. They did so under the assumption that they wlidk keep it. Mission accomplished. Distorted the culture? Why does that feel like such a familiar communist talking point...

These extraneous factors aren't relevant to whether or not their goals were accomplished. They reclaimed territory, reclaimed their identity, and reclaimed their economic power.

It wasn't perfect. It didn't need to be.

2021-01-03 17:35:51 UTC  

they didn’t establish an identity, they destroyed one. they took down the german catholic clergy for dissidence and tore up local culture by liquidating protestant churches into the state (xi jinping style for aryans)

2021-01-03 17:36:16 UTC  

they persecuted against judaism which made up a strong chunk of german identity

2021-01-03 17:36:56 UTC  

most germans jews fought in ww1, jews who were celebrated

2021-01-03 17:38:02 UTC  

Judaism isn't German. And these claims that Hitler was anti-Christian mostly come from the table talks which are bullshit.

When you say "took down" what does that actually mean? Liquidating? For what, money?

During world War 1 the jews also swept up many of the shops, publications and governmental positions. As soon as it was over they initiated the 1918 revolution and installed the Weimar Republic, which they controlled.

2021-01-03 17:40:37 UTC  

Black wall street is fake and gay.

2021-01-03 17:40:41 UTC  

judaism has a strong history in german lands, lest you forget rome didn’t fall by itself you fucking moron and ashkenazi jews have been around forever. if i wanted controversial direct quotes i’d go to table talk but that’s not what this is. the state literally integrated various protestant churches together that would otherwise not align and had them blast positive christianity in line with party’s description