Message from @VinceChaos
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Can we make boomer identitarian memes
Been great guys but I gotta get back to work lol.
Peace
I got off work a couple hours ago I hate working weekends
Try being a fucking line cook
I don’t get paid enough
I worked restaurants many years ago, that work SUCKS.
I need a career job
@The Lion are you tied to your locality?
tfw not in Chicago
What do you guys think of the concept of having one set of morality/ethics for your in-group and another for the out-groups?
I'm asking in reference to the colonization topic above
... isn't that how every group handles ethical dilemmas?
put it like this: has _anyone_ been able to apply a set of ethics universally? I seriously doubt it.
I wonder how Molyneux feels about UPB now.
@Salo Saloson but the problem is whites DO do that. Or at least they're the ones that deny themselves in-group ethics since many of them deny they even are a group sadly.
We should prioritize our own group, of course, but if an action towards a person is morally wrong, whether they are in group or out group shouldn't be a factor
@Jacob So is colonization morally wrong in your opinion?
yes
We should still counter narratives that portray colonialism as worse than it actually was, though
@Jacob I want to ask you another question, do morals matter when it comes to your group versus the other?
@ExternalPepsi of course
if an action is morally wrong, it's still morally wrong if the target is outside your in group
*duplicitous and shifty people...* 🤔
@Nemets Do you mean the out-group won't trust you? And what if the out group doesn't care if we trust them? Doesn't that make you and your in-group vulnerable by expecting fairplay?
@Jacob Alright. But what if the out-group doesn't play that game and starts applying a different morality to you than the one amongst themselves? Do you reciprocate or remain on the moral high ground?
Oh happy Australia Day
@ExternalPepsi You react the same way you would if someone within your in group treated you immorally
Treat others the way they treat you
Okay. But if diversity+proximity=conflict, then why even try and hold the out-group to the same moral code of ethics as your in-group? If conflict is inevitable, why begin to apply universal morality in the first place just so they can screw you first? Or do you not believe that?
>the majority of the people we need to win over want to be good people
>we can't survive without winning over these people
strictly from a pragmatic position, we need to show these people they have been duped and normalize our opinions
@ExternalPepsi We do have some non whites who are sympathetic to us who we shouldn't alienate
@Evan we live in a bad world brah. Nah tho thats a fair point but these are questions I've been asking myself a lot lately.
@Jacob that didn't really address what I said.
Conflict is inevitable but don’t cause it
@VinceChaos but it's inevitable tho?
Bad things happen. Don’t be the one to cause them
Lol now I'm just trying to play devil's advocate