Message from @Salo Saloson

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2019-01-27 03:50:11 UTC  

No beating around the bush, I also can’t say that colonialism is a good idea. How can I stand against immigration but say that we should colonize another country. The best we can do is leave it to black Africans to try to fix their mess as we are doing now.

2019-01-27 03:50:38 UTC  

<:usinnoodle:420778112226164736>

2019-01-27 03:50:39 UTC  

But stand up for our fellow Europeans.

2019-01-27 03:51:09 UTC  

Blacks can do it themselves. Too think otherwise would be racist

2019-01-27 03:51:12 UTC  

<:boomer:394308007217070080>

2019-01-27 03:51:26 UTC  

That’s a great argument.

2019-01-27 03:51:35 UTC  

Destroys leftist rhetoric

2019-01-27 03:51:40 UTC  

Can we make boomer identitarian memes

2019-01-27 03:52:08 UTC  

Been great guys but I gotta get back to work lol.

2019-01-27 03:52:29 UTC  

Peace

2019-01-27 03:52:49 UTC  

I got off work a couple hours ago I hate working weekends

2019-01-27 03:53:03 UTC  

Try being a fucking line cook

2019-01-27 03:53:10 UTC  

I don’t get paid enough

2019-01-27 03:53:57 UTC  

I worked restaurants many years ago, that work SUCKS.

2019-01-27 03:55:06 UTC  

I need a career job

2019-01-27 03:57:16 UTC  

@The Lion are you tied to your locality?

2019-01-27 03:58:12 UTC  

tfw not in Chicago

2019-01-27 04:02:14 UTC  

What do you guys think of the concept of having one set of morality/ethics for your in-group and another for the out-groups?

2019-01-27 04:02:59 UTC  

I'm asking in reference to the colonization topic above

2019-01-27 04:03:09 UTC  

... isn't that how every group handles ethical dilemmas?

2019-01-27 04:03:46 UTC  

put it like this: has _anyone_ been able to apply a set of ethics universally? I seriously doubt it.

2019-01-27 04:04:44 UTC  

I wonder how Molyneux feels about UPB now.

2019-01-27 04:04:46 UTC  

@Salo Saloson but the problem is whites DO do that. Or at least they're the ones that deny themselves in-group ethics since many of them deny they even are a group sadly.

2019-01-27 04:07:44 UTC  

We should prioritize our own group, of course, but if an action towards a person is morally wrong, whether they are in group or out group shouldn't be a factor

2019-01-27 04:08:35 UTC  

@Jacob So is colonization morally wrong in your opinion?

2019-01-27 04:08:46 UTC  

yes

2019-01-27 04:09:30 UTC  

We should still counter narratives that portray colonialism as worse than it actually was, though

2019-01-27 04:09:40 UTC  

Not all behavior can be grouped into good or bad. Turn the other cheek is pretty neutral

2019-01-27 04:12:14 UTC  

@Jacob I want to ask you another question, do morals matter when it comes to your group versus the other?

2019-01-27 04:17:33 UTC  

@ExternalPepsi of course
if an action is morally wrong, it's still morally wrong if the target is outside your in group

2019-01-27 04:17:42 UTC  

*duplicitous and shifty people...* 🤔

2019-01-27 04:19:24 UTC  

@Nemets Do you mean the out-group won't trust you? And what if the out group doesn't care if we trust them? Doesn't that make you and your in-group vulnerable by expecting fairplay?

2019-01-27 04:24:54 UTC  

@Jacob Alright. But what if the out-group doesn't play that game and starts applying a different morality to you than the one amongst themselves? Do you reciprocate or remain on the moral high ground?

2019-01-27 04:25:50 UTC  

Oh happy Australia Day

2019-01-27 04:26:17 UTC  

@ExternalPepsi You react the same way you would if someone within your in group treated you immorally

2019-01-27 04:26:34 UTC  

Treat others the way they treat you

2019-01-27 04:33:19 UTC  

Okay. But if diversity+proximity=conflict, then why even try and hold the out-group to the same moral code of ethics as your in-group? If conflict is inevitable, why begin to apply universal morality in the first place just so they can screw you first? Or do you not believe that?

2019-01-27 04:33:31 UTC  
2019-01-27 04:34:33 UTC  

>the majority of the people we need to win over want to be good people

2019-01-27 04:34:57 UTC  

>we can't survive without winning over these people

2019-01-27 04:35:51 UTC  

strictly from a pragmatic position, we need to show these people they have been duped and normalize our opinions