Message from @Alex Kolchak - NY

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2019-01-27 22:36:22 UTC  

No

2019-01-27 22:36:26 UTC  

huh weird

2019-01-27 22:36:27 UTC  

I’ve accentuated the importance of a homemaker before, she’s interested.

2019-01-27 22:36:34 UTC  

maybe you just notice this stuff more than I do

2019-01-27 22:36:43 UTC  

I might be desensitized from all the time I spent in Seattle

2019-01-27 22:36:46 UTC  

@The Lion I think there is a lot you can do, just with your own behavior, without pressuring her

2019-01-27 22:36:52 UTC  

Perhaps that’s a better way than trying to read some philosophical crap

2019-01-27 22:36:57 UTC  

We were 98% white a few years back and were pretty aggressively targeted for the past few years

2019-01-27 22:36:59 UTC  

I'm also engaged, and the dynamic with my fiance shifted as I became more traditional

2019-01-27 22:37:40 UTC  

@The Lion You might get something out of red pill married forums like on reddit, or the High T marriage blog

2019-01-27 22:37:59 UTC  

and of course there are things you can do yourself, like saving and investing to enable a traditional lifestyle for yourself and her down the road

2019-01-27 22:38:24 UTC  

Another thing, what would you all consider a good career for a traditional man.

2019-01-27 22:39:10 UTC  

@The Lion Generally speaking, women are less logical and more emotional. Showing some graph about economic consequences of both parents working would be much less effective than painting the imagery of the life you imagine for the two of you together, and let her imagination run with it.

2019-01-27 22:39:35 UTC  

I mean it seems broad but to be engaged in the home life and care for your family, and I intend on having many children so I would need a high pay grade.

2019-01-27 22:39:50 UTC  

@The Lion Something that can support a family and that you are good at. There is 0 virtue in being poor.

2019-01-27 22:40:25 UTC  

@The Lion trades are trad in the masculine sense but being something like an engineer or financier gives you a lot of freedom to be with your kids

2019-01-27 22:40:57 UTC  

I wish I chose a career where I could listen to audiobooks all day

2019-01-27 22:41:04 UTC  

imagine how smart I would be after a year of that

2019-01-27 22:42:22 UTC  

@Jacob either really smart or really the kind of guy ppl dont want to talk to at parties

2019-01-27 22:42:31 UTC  

@The Lion You might want to introduce her to Lana from Red Ice TV, she covers politics more than homemaking but she's a good female figure for the movement

2019-01-27 22:42:47 UTC  

@The Lion you could also think about it this way:

We live in unstable times. We want to bring society back to tradition, but we ourselves might not be able to live that way. So if the choice is between living a by-the-book traditionalist life and being financially stable, successful, etc., the latter option may be better

2019-01-27 22:43:51 UTC  

I always like to use women like Ann Coulter and Marion M. Le Pen as examples - should we live in a world where they don’t have to be in politics? of course. Do we? Sadly not

just replace “politics” with whatever field

2019-01-27 22:44:08 UTC  

Isn't "traditionalist" a subjective term? I feel like we are cultural pioneers trying to find OUR traditionalism

2019-01-27 22:45:06 UTC  

that’s a really good point

2019-01-27 22:45:09 UTC  

@godric you can know stuff but not feel the need to constantly tell everyone about it

2019-01-27 22:45:40 UTC  

I used to pine for the days of the 1950s from those old pictures but like...it's never coming back. We will never have that. just pictures and maybe some old footage to reference

2019-01-27 22:46:36 UTC  

@Jacob that's true, I'm just being zany 🤠

2019-01-27 22:46:38 UTC  

"Tradition is the carrying of flame, not the worship of ashes"

2019-01-27 22:46:42 UTC  

Best overall definition.

2019-01-27 22:47:10 UTC  

@sigruna14yeah dude 100%

2019-01-27 22:47:17 UTC  

Sure we can't ever go back, but we have the chance to create an equally good (or better) society.

2019-01-27 22:47:37 UTC  

There's going to be a better society.

2019-01-27 22:48:40 UTC  

One of the things that drew to this was to foster a better future. I had a weird, chaotic upbringing and I crave normalcy

2019-01-27 22:49:13 UTC  

same

2019-01-27 22:49:19 UTC  

not the weird, chaotic part

2019-01-27 22:49:27 UTC  

but the normalcy part

2019-01-27 22:50:33 UTC  

I'd be pretty satisfied if I could just have a normal life and not worry about politics

2019-01-27 22:52:25 UTC  

Haha yeah. If my future kids never have to worry about being red pilled and can just be normal people then we're good

2019-01-27 22:53:25 UTC  

I have two contradictory goals in life

2019-01-27 22:53:48 UTC  

I want to do something great, but at the same time I just want to be left alone and relax

2019-01-27 22:54:09 UTC  

Same.