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Sorry apollo

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@The Lion Trying to force people into thinking the way you do about things, especially with regards to direct action - "read, this book - watch this video", that stuff often has the opposite effect.

haha is it really that surprising? I don't shop at any of the stores with fancy brand names because they're too expensive

https://theamericansun.com/2019/01/24/dollar-store-reaction/

One of the stores I shop at is employee owned, and the other too are irrelevant small chains that have better things to do than worry about politics

Well I mean she’s interested @Papa Pizzagate

reposting this since the topic is shopping

I’m not forcing her here, it’s just I don’t really know how to explain traditional values to a woman.

At least not in detail

@Jacob It is to me. Even local chains with 3 stores usually have posters up with the usual garbage on it. I mostly go to local butcher shops and bakeries these days.

Sometimes I miss ben and jerrys

oh well I guess it depends where you are

in Seattle there's a gay flag in every window

@Jacob that’s really sad lol

shit, there was even a smoke shop with a "we refuse fascism bla bla bla" sign

I'm in Eastern Washington, which is red, though

so that might be why the local chains don't bother

I work next to a hair dresser with a HUGE sign that says "proudly LGBT owned"

@The Lion frame it more like relationship goals. "Wouldn't it be great if we get to the point when we have children, that you don't have to work. You could stay home with the kids and take care of the home... We could have you know, an Irish setter or something, a property with a few acres, maybe some veggies and a little herb garden, we could even raise bees."

If she is already interested such ideas would probably appeal to her

Do you live in a blue part of Ohio?

that might be why

Beekeeping does seem pretty cool.

"Plus, you know...we want to have a couple of kids, so it would be *pretty difficult* for the both of us to work AND raise good children" @The Lion

I live in a big city, but the red suburb I'm from has the same problem

is the county blue?

No

huh weird

I’ve accentuated the importance of a homemaker before, she’s interested.

maybe you just notice this stuff more than I do

I might be desensitized from all the time I spent in Seattle

@The Lion I think there is a lot you can do, just with your own behavior, without pressuring her

Perhaps that’s a better way than trying to read some philosophical crap

We were 98% white a few years back and were pretty aggressively targeted for the past few years

I'm also engaged, and the dynamic with my fiance shifted as I became more traditional

@The Lion You might get something out of red pill married forums like on reddit, or the High T marriage blog

and of course there are things you can do yourself, like saving and investing to enable a traditional lifestyle for yourself and her down the road

Another thing, what would you all consider a good career for a traditional man.