i mean

You need to like it if you want to endure it

you can do plenty of programming without gadgets

and have lots of fun

oh in that sense

yeah

I guess

yeah, the devices tend to lock you into a particular paradigm or some specific language / libraries / dialects and you end up fighting hardware and getting distracted

rpi is different since they're mostly transparent and you can treat them like another machine

but arduinos and fpgas and stuff, not really transferrable and in the end not worth it

general processing almost always wins in the long term

unless you're writing password crackers or something

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

sorry i'm a bit of a killjoy

but I have a neckbeardy giant box(es) of hardware I've accumulated over the years so it's kinda speaking from exp

no no, this seems practical what you're telling me

I'm paranoid about finding work anyways

So anything that helps is good

yeah it's all fun and games until like... you're fighting some stupid hardware bug or wasting time with some bogus line connection

devops is "hot" or whatever. learn saltstack or coreos or something.

easy job in most metro markets

everyone wants to save money and replace oldschool admins.

aws learner account comes in handy there

I see

don't do web programming. shit is terribad.

Networking debugging always makes me think of thise: http://www.ibiblio.org/harris/500milemail.html

I do mostly web programming :/

NodeJS is fun

if you're good enough at it you can make good scratch but don't get stuck is all

What should I move to?

it's a treadmill

you move to whatever is trendo

Isn't the web getting trendo?

RoR was popular 5 years ago and now it's shiet right

Everybody is making SaaS stuff

yeah idk i'm probably biased.

what do you work on nowadays?

infra stuff, the meta task of spinning up lots of your SaaS webapps

and keeping all the plates in the air, monitored and not pwned by the worst enemy: ourselves

accidentally pwning your webapps?

it happens