I just don’t see how it’s been 2 years and he hasn’t even started the wall. That should’ve been his first thing he accomplished.

Electability is only useful insofar as your candidate is worth a hoot

Give a hoot, don’t pollute!

Lol true

Cool folks hop in to general for an even hotter, pre fireside chat

and then leave when the real fireside happens

Trump probably won't do much of anything. Even if he does, it will be too little, too late. Remember, this battle, which Trump appears to be losing, is only for 1/5 of the wall funding.

Woodsy Owl nationalism, when?! @Reinhard Wolff

I think it’s important for us to come across the sober reminder that we are only in the very beginning stages of winning

We voted for Trump to go to war against the establishment. Instead, he appears to have merged with the establishment.

I feel that Dems will just end the wall project or starve it of funding if he does get it since it won’t be finished, even if he starts tomorrow.

I'm not pessimistic overall, but we need to be realistic about Trump.

My parents have been coping hard about Trump. They tell me to give him the rest of the time until funding runs out, but he has failed for two years

Nick Fuentes had a good bit regarding this the other day, @Undercover Academic - IL.

They might even tear it down

“We will grow old in this fight.”

just vote for Tulsi Gabbard lmao

^

literally this

BUILD WALL DEPORT THEM ALL > Oh We'll take care of DACA > 25 BILLION FOR A WALL >5 BILLION FOR A WALL > 5 BILLION FOR STEEL SLATS > 5 BILLION FOR A FENCE > 5 BILLION FOR A FENCE THAT COVERS "KEY" AREAS

what a joke

I'll stand by what I said I never implies Trump was going to build a moat of fire next week, but what would be the difference if he railed on immigration for half an hour than did nothing as well?

No amount of lip service will suffice at this point, sure.

If nothing else it keeps the issue in the public’s kind, I guess. @nord

I’m not voting GOP

And imo no one else should either

"Waht do you need 40 dollars for? I can't believe my own son is demanding 10 dollars from me! HELP POLICE THIS MADMAN IS TRYING TO STEAL 100 DOLLARS FROM ME!!"

Depends on who's running.

Until we get candidates running

Trump was our best chance at electoral, democratic changes from the top

In the short term

@Reinhard Wolff I'm super busy with school and preparing for the interview so won't have time to listen to the fireside, but, now that you're in the chat, I have a question. I have a guy asking if he'd lose his federal security clearance if he joined IE.

I just feel personally that people should weigh their options a bit more before abandoning the GOP and going full accelerationist and voting Dem. Obviously the GOP are not our guys but the alternative is only going to increase immigration at an even greater rate.

*my opinion though believe what you like

Tulsi Gabbard isn't full accelerationist, in fact, I'd argue it's not accelerationist at all

how so?

I don't see any chance of her opposing any sort of amnesty legislation that is put through Congress.

If they discovered he was in IE, yes. But if he applies under an alias and minds his opsec, he should be fine. People in IE have gotten clearances many times in the past. @Jacob

I genuinely think her policies might be better. If Trump isn't going to reduce immigration *anyway*, might as well vote for someone who is going to end foreign wars, which is a large root cause of immigration, and reduce support for Israel, which meddles in American politics @nord @Mojave Paisan - NV

@Reinhard Wolff thanks