What's the ryzen one?

I mean what CPU do you have with that x200 ?

Then ofc inbuilt ups on laptops is nice feature at times

Yeah, but you're forgetting a lot of stuff if you just stop the comparison here

Here I took it from nothing, like you don't own anything beforehand

If I were to apply that to me or a lot of people I could re-use my case /PSU/ screen and maybe a few other things (SSD and *maybe* ram)

So you could scratch it from the list

So technically you could get better if you compared it for a more lenghty period of time

(because let's be honest, upgrading a laptop is a joke)

but i do admit that comparing desktop vs that Helios was intentional as AC-wireless and 144hz+ IPS monitor rises the price quite bit

but yeah they are equal prices in paper just for different kind of preferences and usage times

i would never work on laptop more than 3 hours continously (even that is at times pushing it)

unless it has proper extra screen and kb+mouse

but most people know they dont need it that much but still want that performance for when they do

To be perfectly honest though

If you want to compare laptop to desktop

In gaming i mean

17:05] Tervy: i would never work on laptop more than 3 hours continously (even that is at times pushing it)
[17:05] Tervy: unless it has proper extra screen and kb+mouse

😉

You should probably compare mid/high end laptop WITHOUT GPU and use an external GPU

Just like a desktop, the case is gonna be costy the first time, but it's gonna be reusable with future generations

And you're gonna get almost desktop performance without killing your components with the heat

(or not that much)

true even tho that still defeats the mobility and form factor what laptops give

but that makes them tad bit more upgradable

Yeah... but then I imagine a use case where you don't game in a plane/train but in a more "stationary" position

So installing your external GPU is possible

indeed

You still have to carry it around, but that's doable

[heat dissipation]

And not *that much* of a hassle

Since it's external it's way less of a pain to manage actually

thank god those external drives (and our connector protocols) are jumping leaps and bounds lately

so such devices become more and more valid options

Yeah... but I still don't feel confident with using them for sensitive datas

I'd rather waste a lot of time and money into upgrading an internal SSD/HDD in a laptop than carry an external drive

But then again, I have a different usecase

not that much improvement over SKL

😂 👌

skl was only that slow because intel nerfed the dualcores at normal tdp