Message from @Grenadier

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2019-02-10 02:29:22 UTC  

I mean

2019-02-10 02:29:31 UTC  

really strong authoritarianism kinda works with multiculturalism

2019-02-10 02:29:33 UTC  

So to blame our system and throw the baby out with the bathwater is kind of silly.

2019-02-10 02:29:59 UTC  

@Jacob Yeah but Austro-Hungarian empire

2019-02-10 02:30:01 UTC  

I mean, it was our laughably easily subverted system that pretty much did this.

2019-02-10 02:30:19 UTC  

Easily subverted?

2019-02-10 02:30:36 UTC  

ya lol

2019-02-10 02:30:41 UTC  

I would say our political system is pretty well dumpstered at this point.

2019-02-10 02:30:43 UTC  

Our government was *made* to avoid subversion though

2019-02-10 02:30:46 UTC  

there's a lot the founders couldn't foresee so it's not really their fault

2019-02-10 02:30:58 UTC  

but I mean you gotta admit it wasn't that hard to subvert

2019-02-10 02:31:02 UTC  

Maybe they didn’t do a good enough job I guess

2019-02-10 02:31:14 UTC  

I can make a boat that's not supposed to sink, but I can still fuck it up and have it sink.

2019-02-10 02:31:14 UTC  

I tend to idolize them so I’m probably blinded by that

2019-02-10 02:31:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/543982356432683008/image0.jpg

2019-02-10 02:31:49 UTC  

There’s just straight dirty tricks going on like brown vs board and roe v wade were based on lies

2019-02-10 02:32:05 UTC  

They were good men, changing times require changing systems and precautions they could not have forseen.

2019-02-10 02:32:27 UTC  

any system where politicans can use immigration to bring in new voters is easily subverted tbh

2019-02-10 02:32:48 UTC  

Yeah just put stuff in place to prevent that

2019-02-10 02:32:49 UTC  

same with any system where judges can just kinda strike stuff down because "lol I didn't like it"

2019-02-10 02:32:57 UTC  

There was stuff in place to prevent that.

2019-02-10 02:33:01 UTC  

It was stripped away.

2019-02-10 02:33:06 UTC  

The realist in me says: it happened it was subverted easier than a lot of countries therefore it was easier to subvert than other systems

2019-02-10 02:33:25 UTC  

I think we weren’t the easiest just the first target

2019-02-10 02:33:31 UTC  

Everything else fell after we did

2019-02-10 02:33:32 UTC  

Ohhh

2019-02-10 02:33:34 UTC  

Yeah

2019-02-10 02:33:51 UTC  

But idk

2019-02-10 02:34:14 UTC  

I mean idk

2019-02-10 02:34:28 UTC  

I'm sure Europe was targeted for a really long time

2019-02-10 02:34:56 UTC  

What else is based on a lie......the entire equality under the law thing was reinterpreted to mean the inverse

2019-02-10 02:34:58 UTC  

I think Weimar had America pretty well beat in the subversion game for some time.

2019-02-10 02:34:59 UTC  

The US was partly an easier target due to the fact the "nation of immigrants" narrative is really strong here

2019-02-10 02:35:15 UTC  

to be honest I think Americans are inherently more pro-immigration than Europeans

2019-02-10 02:35:36 UTC  

even right now if you look at public opinion surveys in Western Europe they're not actually all that pro-immigration

2019-02-10 02:36:04 UTC  

@Jacob. Anarchotyranny seems to be working well for multiculturalism. 👌

2019-02-10 02:36:38 UTC  

I commend France that they’re (peacefully) protesting their government

2019-02-10 02:37:45 UTC  

That is our original downfall

2019-02-10 02:38:02 UTC  

Shining city on a hill

2019-02-10 02:38:11 UTC  

That damned Statue of Liberty poem