Message from @Nick_Knight
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@Jacob would the identitarian thing be letting California do its thing with sanctuary cities?
@Dale Adams It is in the sense of self-determination, but the only reason the Catalans want independence is to take in more refugees.
Same with Scotland.
I mean if Californians were an actual ethnicity, then, sure, the identitarian thing would be to let them go their own way @Nick_Knight
Catalans are not an ethnicity
Montanans are an ethnicity
fair enough, though I personally take the position that if a group of people wants to secede and do their own thing then that shouldn't really be anyone else's problem @Nick_Knight
every person should have there own country
The problem is that the majority of the Catalonian territory doesn't want to secede, mostly the people in Barcelona.
seems like bringing in a mediator to make a deal would be the best decision
rather than just having a central government impose their will
Unfortunately, until the EU is dissolved, it will be a problem for the rest of Europe.
So you would actually support California disobeying federal law?
if it was white Californians doing it and not imported voters, then sure
well, not disobeying, because that would affect all of us
but if they wanted to secede then they should go for it
Just out of curiosity, while Catalonians are trying to secede, neither positions are truly anti immigrant, right?
imagine all the electoral votes we'd get if we got rid of California
guaranteed red for decades
I guess we'll agree to disagree. Just keep in mind that Cataluña has the help and support from the media propaganda machine for a reason.
A fractured Spain helps some interests.
@Jacob The California supreme court would never let us vote for Calexit. I would happily vote for it and promptly move after it passes.
ya dude that's basically how I feel
it would kinda suck if Washington did that because we'd lose Eastern Washington
but if that was the best choice then whatever
The only nice areas in this state are the parts within 5 miles of the coast and in the far North.
Olympia can screw off with their shitty attorney general and senators
and district judges
@Jacob At least you don't have AG Becerra
Dude Bob Ferguson is shit
honestly if the entire West Coast seceded they'd be screwed anyway
sure they have Seattle and Silicon Valley
but have fun without food
california is one of the largest producers of produce though
it's also a massive population
they're screwed without the middle states
We'd have to cut our exports bigly to sustain ourselves.
also I said "coast"
imagine if the red Eastern counties refused to secede and it was literally just the coast
kinda like what West Virginia did with Virginia
Western Washington would be mega screwed without Eastern Washington