Message from @Nick_Knight

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2019-02-11 00:18:22 UTC  

@Jacob would the identitarian thing be letting California do its thing with sanctuary cities?

2019-02-11 00:18:47 UTC  

@Dale Adams It is in the sense of self-determination, but the only reason the Catalans want independence is to take in more refugees.

2019-02-11 00:18:53 UTC  

Same with Scotland.

2019-02-11 00:20:01 UTC  

I mean if Californians were an actual ethnicity, then, sure, the identitarian thing would be to let them go their own way @Nick_Knight

2019-02-11 00:20:15 UTC  

Catalans are not an ethnicity

2019-02-11 00:20:56 UTC  

Montanans are an ethnicity

2019-02-11 00:21:45 UTC  

fair enough, though I personally take the position that if a group of people wants to secede and do their own thing then that shouldn't really be anyone else's problem @Nick_Knight

2019-02-11 00:22:28 UTC  

every person should have there own country

2019-02-11 00:22:35 UTC  

The problem is that the majority of the Catalonian territory doesn't want to secede, mostly the people in Barcelona.

2019-02-11 00:23:27 UTC  

seems like bringing in a mediator to make a deal would be the best decision

2019-02-11 00:23:42 UTC  

rather than just having a central government impose their will

2019-02-11 00:23:59 UTC  

Unfortunately, until the EU is dissolved, it will be a problem for the rest of Europe.

2019-02-11 00:24:22 UTC  

So you would actually support California disobeying federal law?

2019-02-11 00:25:04 UTC  

if it was white Californians doing it and not imported voters, then sure

2019-02-11 00:25:36 UTC  

well, not disobeying, because that would affect all of us
but if they wanted to secede then they should go for it

2019-02-11 00:25:40 UTC  

Just out of curiosity, while Catalonians are trying to secede, neither positions are truly anti immigrant, right?

2019-02-11 00:26:12 UTC  

imagine all the electoral votes we'd get if we got rid of California

2019-02-11 00:26:21 UTC  

guaranteed red for decades

2019-02-11 00:26:53 UTC  

I guess we'll agree to disagree. Just keep in mind that Cataluña has the help and support from the media propaganda machine for a reason.

2019-02-11 00:27:24 UTC  

A fractured Spain helps some interests.

2019-02-11 00:28:04 UTC  

@Jacob The California supreme court would never let us vote for Calexit. I would happily vote for it and promptly move after it passes.

2019-02-11 00:28:34 UTC  

ya dude that's basically how I feel

2019-02-11 00:29:03 UTC  

it would kinda suck if Washington did that because we'd lose Eastern Washington

2019-02-11 00:29:13 UTC  

but if that was the best choice then whatever

2019-02-11 00:29:27 UTC  

The only nice areas in this state are the parts within 5 miles of the coast and in the far North.

2019-02-11 00:29:53 UTC  

Olympia can screw off with their shitty attorney general and senators

2019-02-11 00:30:07 UTC  

and district judges

2019-02-11 00:30:18 UTC  

@Jacob At least you don't have AG Becerra

2019-02-11 00:30:31 UTC  

Dude Bob Ferguson is shit

2019-02-11 00:31:37 UTC  

honestly if the entire West Coast seceded they'd be screwed anyway

2019-02-11 00:31:51 UTC  

sure they have Seattle and Silicon Valley

2019-02-11 00:31:57 UTC  

but have fun without food

2019-02-11 00:32:23 UTC  

california is one of the largest producers of produce though

2019-02-11 00:32:58 UTC  

it's also a massive population

2019-02-11 00:33:11 UTC  

they're screwed without the middle states

2019-02-11 00:33:26 UTC  

We'd have to cut our exports bigly to sustain ourselves.

2019-02-11 00:34:06 UTC  

also I said "coast"
imagine if the red Eastern counties refused to secede and it was literally just the coast

2019-02-11 00:34:41 UTC  

kinda like what West Virginia did with Virginia

2019-02-11 00:35:39 UTC  

Western Washington would be mega screwed without Eastern Washington