Message from @GandalfTheGreen
Discord ID: 587847999510675486
If you honestly think your creator would do that.
The God of the bible is not effected by time, space or matter. If He is effected by time, space or matter, He is not God. Time space and matter is what we call a continuum, they all came into existence at the same instance. Because if there were matter with no space, where would you put it? If there were matter and space but no time, when would you put it? You cannot have time, space or matter independently, they have to come into existence simultaneous. The bible answers that in 10 words.
**In the beginning (time) God created the Heaven (space) and the Earth (matter)**
So you have time, space and matter created the trinities of trinities there just as:
Time is past, Present and Future.
Space is length, width and height.
Matter has solid, liquid and gas.
You have the trinity of trinities created instantaneously and the God who created them has to be outside of them. If He is limited by time, He is not God. The God who created this "computer", is not in the computer. He is not running around in there changing the numbers on the screen. The God who created this universe is outside of the universe. He is above it, beyond it, through it. He Is unaffected by it.
So for the concept that a spiritual force cannot have any effect on a material body, well then I guess you would have to explain to me things like emotions and love and hatred and envy and jealousy and rationality. If your brain is just a random collection of chemicals that formed by chance over billions of years, how on Earth can you trust your own reasoning process and thoughts that you think?
So the question, where did God come from, is assuming a limited God.
And that's your problem.
The God that I worship is not limited by time, space or matter.
If I could fit the infinite God in my three pound brain, He would not be worth worshipping, that's for certain. So that's the God that I worship.
@Shekhar
(PROTIP.... HE WOULDN'T BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU)
Gandalf your life here is over in a nano second, eternity with your creator is the goal....I wont live for the world and the things that perish I am interested in eternity with my creator
Actually,
My life here is continuous, only I don't remember how many cycles I've been through.
[Isaiah] 29:16
Some people are lucky enough to remember.
Me, not so much.
That's how the elite keep coming back
Its a personal choice brother and one that can not be forced on anyone. God gave us free will and does not force us, so who am I his creation to try and force anyone? Make sense
I just point the way, God does the saving
im just a servant
Please understand, I very much believe in what you call "God"
Just not in the way that you do at all.
Read that argument i posted for the existence of God
will do Citizen
I copied it from a religious debate long time ago
It's Ken's argument
It's a classic
Yes
I already believe but it will be edifying
Because it invokes the trinity.
Because reality itself invokes the trinity.
Its good
See, this is why I get so mad
You guys are so close,
to seeing a really big picture
lol
But the book that binds, has got you BOUND GOOD.
I'm not telling you to discard it.
I'm telling you that it's Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth.
Now, I myself,
that book is the only thing we have from GOD
its what he left us
Turn to it when I need to recall a scripture, or verse.
its what we have to work with
That's a HUGE mistruth.
God does not speak to me from a burning bush