Message from @Citizen Z

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2019-06-11 03:34:58 UTC  

Not Man.

2019-06-11 03:35:02 UTC  

Job didn't ask for what he got.

2019-06-11 03:35:12 UTC  

Nobody else to blame there but the big man.

2019-06-11 03:35:15 UTC  

That is.....

2019-06-11 03:35:23 UTC  

If you honestly think your creator would do that.

2019-06-11 03:35:30 UTC  

The God of the bible is not effected by time, space or matter. If He is effected by time, space or matter, He is not God. Time space and matter is what we call a continuum, they all came into existence at the same instance. Because if there were matter with no space, where would you put it? If there were matter and space but no time, when would you put it? You cannot have time, space or matter independently, they have to come into existence simultaneous. The bible answers that in 10 words.

**In the beginning (time) God created the Heaven (space) and the Earth (matter)**

So you have time, space and matter created the trinities of trinities there just as:
Time is past, Present and Future.
Space is length, width and height.
Matter has solid, liquid and gas.

You have the trinity of trinities created instantaneously and the God who created them has to be outside of them. If He is limited by time, He is not God. The God who created this "computer", is not in the computer. He is not running around in there changing the numbers on the screen. The God who created this universe is outside of the universe. He is above it, beyond it, through it. He Is unaffected by it.

So for the concept that a spiritual force cannot have any effect on a material body, well then I guess you would have to explain to me things like emotions and love and hatred and envy and jealousy and rationality. If your brain is just a random collection of chemicals that formed by chance over billions of years, how on Earth can you trust your own reasoning process and thoughts that you think?

So the question, where did God come from, is assuming a limited God.

And that's your problem.

The God that I worship is not limited by time, space or matter.

If I could fit the infinite God in my three pound brain, He would not be worth worshipping, that's for certain. So that's the God that I worship.

@Shekhar

2019-06-11 03:35:31 UTC  

(PROTIP.... HE WOULDN'T BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU)

2019-06-11 03:35:43 UTC  

2019-06-11 03:35:53 UTC  

Gandalf your life here is over in a nano second, eternity with your creator is the goal....I wont live for the world and the things that perish I am interested in eternity with my creator

2019-06-11 03:36:03 UTC  

Actually,

2019-06-11 03:36:20 UTC  

My life here is continuous, only I don't remember how many cycles I've been through.

2019-06-11 03:36:24 UTC  

[Isaiah] 29:16

2019-06-11 03:36:25 UTC  

Some people are lucky enough to remember.

2019-06-11 03:36:30 UTC  

Me, not so much.

2019-06-11 03:37:02 UTC  

That's how the elite keep coming back

2019-06-11 03:37:08 UTC  

Its a personal choice brother and one that can not be forced on anyone. God gave us free will and does not force us, so who am I his creation to try and force anyone? Make sense

2019-06-11 03:37:15 UTC  

I just point the way, God does the saving

2019-06-11 03:37:17 UTC  

im just a servant

2019-06-11 03:37:28 UTC  

Please understand, I very much believe in what you call "God"

2019-06-11 03:37:35 UTC  

Just not in the way that you do at all.

2019-06-11 03:37:42 UTC  

Read that argument i posted for the existence of God

2019-06-11 03:37:58 UTC  

will do Citizen

2019-06-11 03:38:01 UTC  

I copied it from a religious debate long time ago

2019-06-11 03:38:04 UTC  

It's Ken's argument

2019-06-11 03:38:04 UTC  

lol

2019-06-11 03:38:07 UTC  

It's a classic

2019-06-11 03:38:13 UTC  

Yes

2019-06-11 03:38:13 UTC  

I already believe but it will be edifying

2019-06-11 03:38:14 UTC  

Because it invokes the trinity.

2019-06-11 03:38:20 UTC  

Because reality itself invokes the trinity.

2019-06-11 03:38:25 UTC  

Its good

2019-06-11 03:38:25 UTC  

See, this is why I get so mad

2019-06-11 03:38:29 UTC  

You guys are so close,

2019-06-11 03:38:33 UTC  

to seeing a really big picture

2019-06-11 03:38:34 UTC  

lol

2019-06-11 03:38:46 UTC  

But the book that binds, has got you BOUND GOOD.

2019-06-11 03:38:51 UTC  

I'm not telling you to discard it.

2019-06-11 03:39:05 UTC  

I'm telling you that it's Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth.

2019-06-11 03:39:09 UTC  

Now, I myself,

2019-06-11 03:39:14 UTC  

that book is the only thing we have from GOD

2019-06-11 03:39:18 UTC  

its what he left us