Message from @Shekhar

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2019-06-11 03:31:39 UTC  

yes

2019-06-11 03:31:47 UTC  

Huh.

2019-06-11 03:31:47 UTC  

why does god keep changing?

2019-06-11 03:32:01 UTC  

[Hosea 13:4]

2019-06-11 03:32:02 UTC  

it used to be the elements and not the god we know

2019-06-11 03:32:03 UTC  

2019-06-11 03:32:07 UTC  

God proved a point to Satan there, that our Father would continue to be worshiped because Job believed. No matter what satan or the world did it would not sway him. The bible tells us over and overf our faith will be tired, we will be tempted and each time we grow stronger

2019-06-11 03:32:08 UTC  

There we go

2019-06-11 03:32:09 UTC  

he doesn't change

2019-06-11 03:32:12 UTC  

so I dont mind the trials

2019-06-11 03:32:17 UTC  

I look at them as growth

2019-06-11 03:32:21 UTC  

and there are hundreds of gods in Hindu belief

2019-06-11 03:32:24 UTC  

Yea, it was a great point to Satan, but it was pretty bad for god's children. You know, Job's family

2019-06-11 03:32:30 UTC  

Though he was a kind and loving God

2019-06-11 03:32:36 UTC  

Seems like this jealousy thing goes a bit too far.

2019-06-11 03:32:40 UTC  

I'm more of a family man.

2019-06-11 03:32:46 UTC  

No torture pit for my kids

2019-06-11 03:32:59 UTC  

No need to ruin anyones family.

2019-06-11 03:33:03 UTC  

That's not love.

2019-06-11 03:33:11 UTC  

But it's a great way to use fear as a tool for control.

2019-06-11 03:33:16 UTC  

I'll be right back

2019-06-11 03:33:17 UTC  

bye

2019-06-11 03:33:19 UTC  

Fear is actually one of the oldest driving needs for people

2019-06-11 03:33:22 UTC  

Fear and Desire.

2019-06-11 03:33:30 UTC  

The 2 things constantly stimulated by society

2019-06-11 03:33:38 UTC  

Religion is the same.

2019-06-11 03:33:54 UTC  

Fear the wrath of the divine, and desire to spend eternity with them at the same time

2019-06-11 03:34:19 UTC  

hindu belief is false though

2019-06-11 03:34:35 UTC  

I notice a lot of people tend to blame GOD. Diseases, natural disaster's, death etc. When Adam and eve Fell all of creation fell with them. Adams wrong choice caused this and the bad things happening are the effect of that choice, and adam and ever were the cause. GOD is not the cause WE are.

2019-06-11 03:34:41 UTC  

Those are man's issues.

2019-06-11 03:34:44 UTC  

But what God did

2019-06-11 03:34:47 UTC  

we have to stop blaming God and start looking in a mirror

2019-06-11 03:34:49 UTC  

or what the bible claims god did

2019-06-11 03:34:56 UTC  

That's God taking accountability

2019-06-11 03:34:58 UTC  

Not Man.

2019-06-11 03:35:02 UTC  

Job didn't ask for what he got.

2019-06-11 03:35:12 UTC  

Nobody else to blame there but the big man.

2019-06-11 03:35:15 UTC  

That is.....

2019-06-11 03:35:23 UTC  

If you honestly think your creator would do that.

2019-06-11 03:35:30 UTC  

The God of the bible is not effected by time, space or matter. If He is effected by time, space or matter, He is not God. Time space and matter is what we call a continuum, they all came into existence at the same instance. Because if there were matter with no space, where would you put it? If there were matter and space but no time, when would you put it? You cannot have time, space or matter independently, they have to come into existence simultaneous. The bible answers that in 10 words.

**In the beginning (time) God created the Heaven (space) and the Earth (matter)**

So you have time, space and matter created the trinities of trinities there just as:
Time is past, Present and Future.
Space is length, width and height.
Matter has solid, liquid and gas.

You have the trinity of trinities created instantaneously and the God who created them has to be outside of them. If He is limited by time, He is not God. The God who created this "computer", is not in the computer. He is not running around in there changing the numbers on the screen. The God who created this universe is outside of the universe. He is above it, beyond it, through it. He Is unaffected by it.

So for the concept that a spiritual force cannot have any effect on a material body, well then I guess you would have to explain to me things like emotions and love and hatred and envy and jealousy and rationality. If your brain is just a random collection of chemicals that formed by chance over billions of years, how on Earth can you trust your own reasoning process and thoughts that you think?

So the question, where did God come from, is assuming a limited God.

And that's your problem.

The God that I worship is not limited by time, space or matter.

If I could fit the infinite God in my three pound brain, He would not be worth worshipping, that's for certain. So that's the God that I worship.

@Shekhar

2019-06-11 03:35:31 UTC  

(PROTIP.... HE WOULDN'T BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU)