Message from @Jordan - MD
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PAC is potentially more powerful than a party
@Perihelion - CA
"Whatever form white advocacy takes it's going to have to run within frame of Republican party"
I want to argue against this, but I think this is reality. The democratic party is no party for white men, and a sustainable independent party would take too long to build.
It's much easier to "subvert" the republican party, where most of our people are anyway.
Hey I wish we had a Parliamentary system too. But we don't. So we got the GOP. Time to begin the Boomer cleaning.
@fire.within - FL Once again I posit. Are YOU - specifically YOU. actually going to do any of this hard work to make this stuff happen? Or are you just playing grand strategist?
We have a number of MT people living in proximity and want to create a community. Something similar is happening in Ohio. If you really believe your strategy, why have YOU not uprooted and moved there already?
PAC focused on (1) Right to Association (2) Self determination in white majority areas
might work
I'm never gonna dump on people for throwing ideas at the wall. But there's a difference between theory and action.
A BIG difference.
Why should I move to a smaller section of the US? I want all of the US.
throwing ideas at the wall and getting network feedback is where things start
@Papa Pizzagate it's healthy to do this, I would say.
Foolish perhaps, but it doesn't harm anyone at the end of the day, and maybe something useful comes of it one day.
@Jordan - MD Yeah sure it's good to think big, but the theory has to be actionable. If you, yourself are not willing to follow through with your theory or ideal then perhaps it's worth reconsidering.
Again. I've been in this for a while so none of this is particularly new to me.
As a movement elder once told me "nearly everyone claims that they would DIE for their people, but it seems very few are willing to WORK for them"
Can't build a house until you know where it's being built
collective action problem is real
If I felt like there was a workable plan I would absolutely take steps to accomplish it. but first a plan is required, and all we are doing is spitballing at midnight, no harm no foul.
Redundant perhaps but healthy nonetheless
I don't disagree at all
Plus it can be fun 😃
I actually enjoy talking about stuff like this, and I love taking action as well, which is why I joined. I can confidently tell you we're going nowhere but up.
A PAC would be effective if it's focused on issues that most people will ignore. If we can localize white issues to a degree that Washington can ignore them while throwing us a bone, kind of how AIPAC works, we might make headway.
But you have to consider: "Good plan but am I (me personally) willing to take steps 2-99" If not, perhaps reconsider the plan.
@Papa Pizzagate I totally agree, and the clearer the picture we have of the future the more people will be willing to take risks in order to accomplish the goal.
By risks I of course mean putting yourself out there to be criticized and scrutinized.
Ian Clowntana Lobo
Based
How did you know that @Freiheit - CA!?!?
I hope for a world where eventually we won't have to worry about getting doxed because we care about the survival of our people, and I see a world where we can have that. It starts in the hearts of our people, not any policies on paper.
@Papa Pizzagate bruh I know everything
Rolling up to LOPF 2019 like:
And that wins the award for the coolest thing I've seen today
👌👌👌👌👌👌
Concept cars are really cool.
Something like that, but toned down would have been epic.
It's a Bronco frame.
One could make one.
The bed is a carpeted chair.
@Papa Pizzagate I’ve got some things in the works, but I can certainly be doing more
Yeah I feel like that thing would do great in a crash /s