Message from @Steve Angell

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2019-07-12 18:36:51 UTC  

@mineyful Do you not understand almost no one would understand how calculus is used to get that formula. Few take college calculus. However most people in High School take math and would understand Pathagriums theory.

2019-07-12 18:37:12 UTC  

My son knows very little about math. But he knows that.

2019-07-12 18:37:19 UTC  

that's trig

2019-07-12 18:37:27 UTC  

Also I'm re-reading some of the calculations you showed earlier. If we took your .666 feet per mile figure you would see just 6.66 feet of curve over 10 miles not 66.6

2019-07-12 18:38:09 UTC  

True but the formula requires using calculus to come up with that formula.

2019-07-12 18:38:57 UTC  

If someone does not trust anything they just read about. Like that formula. Well then they dismiss it. Will not believe it is valid.

2019-07-12 18:39:22 UTC  

it shows you the derivation of the formula if you just read what I said

2019-07-12 18:39:42 UTC  

But they will understand what that simple formula that can be used in many useful ways.

2019-07-12 18:39:47 UTC  

the branch of mathematics that deals with the finding and properties of derivatives and integrals of functions, by methods originally based on the summation of infinitesimal differences. The two main types are differential calculus and integral calculus.

2019-07-12 18:39:51 UTC  

what I posted is not calculus

2019-07-12 18:40:22 UTC  

I am not questioning the validity of that formula at all. I just took Calculus so understand how it was invented.

2019-07-12 18:40:39 UTC  

"True but the formula requires using calculus to come up with that formula."

2019-07-12 18:40:42 UTC  

that's not correct

2019-07-12 18:41:01 UTC  

OK explain to me how they came up with it.

2019-07-12 18:41:05 UTC  

I just

2019-07-12 18:41:06 UTC  

pasted

2019-07-12 18:41:08 UTC  

the explanation

2019-07-12 18:41:32 UTC  

we're looping so I'm getting off this debate

2019-07-12 18:41:38 UTC  

when we start looping in debates I just quit

2019-07-12 18:42:48 UTC  

It does not explain why cosine is used. It is just a very basic description of how the formula works. Not how the formula was put together.

2019-07-12 18:43:29 UTC  

It is a message you are expected to believe however it does not explain the math behind it. Not really.

2019-07-12 18:43:51 UTC  

Rubbish, the formula is derived using trigonometry

2019-07-12 18:45:20 UTC  

How many people would not even know what cos means. Or how to use it on a calculator. How many would remember how to use it 20 years after graduation. Almost no one. But they will remember pathragiams theory.

2019-07-12 18:45:53 UTC  

What is "pathragiams"?

2019-07-12 18:47:35 UTC  

*sigh*>

2019-07-12 18:47:52 UTC  

I just looked it up and I realize why he's using Pythagoras Theorem

2019-07-12 18:48:01 UTC  

He skipped a few steps in calculating the actual curvature

2019-07-12 18:48:08 UTC  

See B is the radius. A is the distance and c is the radius plus the height of curvature. Far simpler to understand.

2019-07-12 18:48:13 UTC  

It's how we get the 8 inch per mile figure

2019-07-12 18:48:36 UTC  

It's only valid if you are using the tangent

2019-07-12 18:49:06 UTC  

In reality you look down to the horion, that is not the tangent

2019-07-12 18:49:21 UTC  

No simple math will work. All your calculator needs is square root to use this.

2019-07-12 18:49:39 UTC  
2019-07-12 18:50:43 UTC  

No one should trust that. It is circular argument. You assume the earth is a ball. It shows a ball. If you want to believe the earth is a ball fine. But do not tell a Flat Earther to trust a ball earth site.

2019-07-12 18:51:19 UTC  

Everything in that calculator can be verified with trigonometry

2019-07-12 18:51:27 UTC  

I could care less where the horizon is. That is just a method of deception.

2019-07-12 18:51:49 UTC  

That midpoint. It is used to half the curve.

2019-07-12 18:52:22 UTC  

If you fail to understand that calcultor then I can't do more

2019-07-12 18:52:34 UTC  

Except why determine the midpoint. What it calls the horizon.

2019-07-12 18:52:48 UTC  

I call it the point of confusion.